Not like the rest at all ?

[aeolium]

.... but did UKIP take Labour votes in H&M? - the Labour vote increased by 1% [which I take to mean 1% increase in share over the last general election].

I notice the turnout in H&M was 36% [51% in Clacton] - do you think Labour voters stayed away believing it would be safe - or was the weather particularly bad in H&M?

But the Libdem vote collapsed in H&M from 23% share in 2010 to 5.1% in 2014. It's probable that most of those votes would have gone to Labour, including perhaps some tactical voting to keep UKIP out once they were seen from polling to be the major opposition to Labour. So Labour's share of the vote could have gone up marginally (though actual number of votes dropped a lot from 2010 due to lower turnout) even while some, possibly many, Labour voters deserted Labour to UKIP - and we know the latter has happened from surveys, interviews. And that's why the standard response from some Labour spokesmen yesterday when interviewed, that there's no real problem because the share of the vote not only held up but slightly increased, seems to me so wide of the mark.

[french frank]

If Farage were serious about NHS workload, he would have gone for diabetes before HIV, I'd suggest. By going for HIV, Farage appears to me to be targetting unpopular grouips, such as gay men and people from immigrants from Africa, good solid UKIP targets. This feeds the UKIP populist 'let's drag the country back to the 1970s' line.

Yes, kills two birds with one stone: Africans and gays. Ebola? That might be promising too ...

I presume he starts with the key UKIP concerns and then looks for connected issues, and the NHS is in the news. Any serious politician will want to talk about the problems of the NHS ...But diabetes could involve all sorts of [irrelevant] issues, like diet and general lifestyle - even social policy. But I wonder how far the country has moved on in what it has ceased to question?

[Serial_Apologist]

Excellent UKIP expose courtesy tonight's Panorama:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04lxvrd

[Beef Oven!]

Excellent UKIP expose courtesy tonight's Panorama:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04lxvrd

Excellent?

There was no excellence at all. It was a shit piece of television/journalism. You know that.

What you mean is, you don't like UKIP and the programme reinforced your emotions on the subject - a perfectly understandable response, that you are entitled to.

I think you've let yourself down a bit with your post. You make far more sense when you talk about music ;-)

[Serial_Apologist]

Excellent?

There was no excellence at all. It was a shit piece of television/journalism. You know that.

What you mean is, you don't like UKIP and the programme reinforced your emotions on the subject - a perfectly understandable response, that you are entitled to.

I think you've let yourself down a bit with your post. You make far more sense when you talk about music ;-)

Makes two of us then

[Beef Oven!]

Makes two of us then

Good that you've taken it on the chin, saves loads of toing and froing.

[teamsaint]

I wonder if they have music threads on politics forums.

[Beef Oven!]

I wonder if they have music threads on politics forums.

Lol!

If they do, GG would be a star! (not that he's not on here, of course).

[teamsaint]

Schnittke 3 is not like the rest at all.

Also, I am struggling to get on with it, really.


Re Gongers, I bet he has LOADS of mates in politics !!

[MrGongGong]

From today's Indy letters

Carswell is an ambitious politician who clearly has his eye on the leadership; hence there's a good chance that UKIP will eventually implode in a cannibalistic sh1tstorm.

Wonderful use of language

I wonder if they have music threads on politics forums.

I'm currently involved in a lengthy discussion of the significance of Spectro-Morphological approaches to acoustic composition on the Conservative Home forum pages .......... ;-)

[ahinton]

I'm currently involved in a lengthy discussion of the significance of Spectro-Morphological approaches to acoustic composition on the Conservative Home forum pages .......... ;-)

Oh, do please let us know which Tory MPs are engaged in that discussion with you and what they've had to say on the subject!

[MrGongGong]

Oh, do please let us know which Tory MPs are engaged in tht discussion with you and what they've had to say on the subject!

It's not as interesting as Ed Miliband's thoughts on Dahlhaus

[P. G. Tipps]

This is getting more like the No Association Whatsoever Thread every day ...

[ahinton]

It's not as interesting as Ed Miliband's thoughts on Dahlhaus

Who?

I mean, who's Ed Miliband?

[MrGongGong]

Who?

I mean, who's Ed Miliband?

:-)

A mere footnote in history


How about a set of questions for potential MP's ?

It would be good to know their opinions on vibrato
HIPP
Whether 4:33" is one of the most significant pieces of the last century

and so on