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  • doversoul1
    Ex Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    Spot on - the frustration when those seeds don't germinate, but the sheer joy when after a week away things have burgeoned. You cannot buy runner beans which come anyway near the ones you pick and eat within 20 minutes. ff - Fresh herbs are great but you can't eat shrubs and hardy perennials!
    Not just fresh peas and very young runner beans but maybe because it goes with the cycle of time/year, growing vegetables keeps you sane at some primitive human level.

    Talking about sanity, I am beginning to doubt my own sanity as the potato mystery continues. We dug half a row yesterday afternoon and left them on the ground to dry (it rained on them during the night but that’s beside the point). In the morning, I found a few more dug up at the other end on the row, and half a dozen small potatoes scattered amongst leeks and dwarf beans as well as on the grass. Curioser and curiouser…

    E-A
    Re: climbing French beans: I have been growing then for many years. They are also much easier to pick.
    Last edited by doversoul1; 13-07-14, 08:35.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30456

      Well, it's an admirable harvest as lunch for one! The first Scarlet Emperors of 2014:



      umslops - Get thee behind me!!!
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Anna

        Originally posted by doversoul View Post
        Talking about sanity, I am beginning to doubt my own sanity as the potato mystery continues. We dug half a row yesterday afternoon and left them on the ground to dry ... In the morning, I found a few more dug up at the other end on the row, and half a dozen small potatoes scattered amongst leeks and dwarf beans as well as on the grass. Curioser and curiouser…
        Dovers, it seems you have potato fairies living at the bottom of your garden!! (would it be badgers?)

        Frenchie, the answer to your feline problem is to acquire a cat of your own, preferably a fierce Ginger Tom - it'll soon see off intruders. Or, do as I have done for the past few years and use a super-sized tub and grow runners in that. Your lunch beans look appetising. Umslops is totally right, it's not the amount that we harvest it's the achievement of putting food on the plate (sort of old hunter-gatherer syndrome maybe?)
        Last edited by Guest; 13-07-14, 08:36. Reason: added philosophical thought!

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        • french frank
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          • Feb 2007
          • 30456

          Originally posted by Anna View Post
          Or, do as I have done for the past few years and use a super-sized tub and grow runners in that. Your lunch beans look appetising.
          I think I prefer that as a possibility. If I put it in the middle of the yard the beans will be easier to pick than the present arrangement, where the wigwam is spreading over my neighbour's fence and will (I hope) furnish her with a meal or two. The plants have the luxuriance of the rainforest.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Anna

            My tub is squre so the canes are around the sides and are upright (not wigwam) and tied from cane to cane so the top is also square (means all plants get equal rainfall and sunlight as the centre is open) Over the years I've been doing it this way I've always had very good crops. And of course, you can dance around them in the moonlight to encourage their fertility if you so wish .....

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30456

              Originally posted by Anna View Post
              My tub is squre so the canes are around the sides and are upright (not wigwam) and tied from cane to cane so the top is also square (means all plants get equal rainfall and sunlight as the centre is open)
              Good tip. I will seek out a tub soonest. I suppose it can be a round tube with the canes placed in a square ... Must see what I can find - or make. Will skip the dancing, though ...
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20572

                Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                E-A
                Re: climbing French beans: I have been growing then for many years. They are also much easier to pick.
                Very well camouflaged though, so many get missed by this slowwitted gardener.

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                • doversoul1
                  Ex Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7132

                  Originally posted by Anna View Post
                  Dovers, it seems you have potato fairies living at the bottom of your garden!! (would it be badgers?)


                  No, badgers would cause more obvious damages and beside, I’d have lost all my carrots by now.

                  E-A
                  You can try a purple variety. Less strain on our backs and wits
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                  Last edited by doversoul1; 13-07-14, 13:00.

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                  • umslopogaas
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1977

                    ds, it might be pheasants, apparently they like potatoes.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20572

                      Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                      You can try a purple variety. Less strain on our backs and wits
                      http://www.marshalls-seeds.co.uk/fre...s-pid5063.html
                      Oh, wow, yes. Something to consider next year.

                      Carrots used to be purple too. They've been reintroduced.

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                      • Anna

                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        Carrots used to be purple too. They've been reintroduced.
                        http://www.amazon.co.uk/CARROT-PURPL...purple+carrots
                        My greengrocer sells purple, and yellow, carrots. The purple ones look a bit odd when served up on the plate but are flavoursome but the yellow ones, whilst not as sweet as a standard orange one if you eat them raw, are wonderfully tasty. Worth trying a row of them I think. On the subject of odd coloured vegs, couple of years back you could buy all kinds of purple, black, burgundy, Scottish heitage potatoes in supermarkets - now I never see them. Passing fad or consumer resistance?

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                        • doversoul1
                          Ex Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 7132

                          Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
                          ds, it might be pheasants, apparently they like potatoes.
                          Yes, pheasants are the most likely answer but not because they are digging up the potatoes to eat, which I am rather doubtful, since there are no marks on any potatoes. I think they are digging for worms and other goodies where soil is freshly exposed. But this still doesn’t explain why the potatoes are scattered where they have no reason to be. I shall stick to Anna’s Potato Fairies.
                          Last edited by doversoul1; 14-07-14, 07:27.

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                          • umslopogaas
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1977

                            well ... if you can produce me photographic or otherwise incontrovertible evidence of potato fairies, I will agree. But until such time, I'm going with pheasants.

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                            • jean
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              • doversoul1
                                Ex Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 7132

                                Yes, that must be what I have, jean. Thanks!! I am very pleased with the harvest: a good crop of good size potatoes, hardly any blight or slug damages. The ground looks perfect for planting endives for winter salad. So far, this has been one of the best gardening years for a long time.

                                We went to the garden centre the other day where they had a sale, and bought a bag full of seeds, hoping that we’d still be fit enough to be digging and planting next year.

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