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  • clive heath
    • Nov 2024

    Roman Roads from the air

    If anyone shares my interest/ mild obsession with maps and have enjoyed the extra insight that aerial views allow, this is for you.

    One of my favourite spots in my home county, Wiltshire, is in the rectangle defined by the A4 between Beckhampton and Calne, the A361 between Devizes and Beckhampton and the two roads A342 and B3102 Devizes to Calne via Sandy Lane. If you google map "North Wilts Golf Course" as follows:

    Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.


    which gives you the satellite option, you will see the A361 across the lower right of the picture, itself an interesting road for anoraks as it is the longest 3-digit A road in the country.



    gives you the gory details including the fact that the section through the Somerset Levels is liable to be flooded!

    Meeting the A361 at an acute angle close to the upper right "A361" identifier is the old London Bath coach road which you can follow to the south of the Golf Club as it goes through or round Heddington and on to Sandy Lane ( not marked as such on the map but "Home Wood" right by the A342 is the spot) where food and rest would be found at the "George" as it still is. I didn't know you can get OS detail without subscribing? Try this !

    http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x...on,+Wiltshire+[Town]&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf

    which will show you the site of The Battle of Roundway Down 1643 where the Royalists won a crushing victory over the Parliamentarians. The farm name "Turnpike Farm" is indicative.

    To me the high spot ( literally and metaphorically) and a place I know only too well is just above the "North Wilts Golf Club" spot marker on the satellite view where the Roman Road ( Mildenhall to Bath, Cunetio to Aquae Sulis) separates from the Wansdyke with which it coincides for a short distance. You can follow the Roman Road to the east, initially curving as it follows the natural contours of the chalk dip slope and then in several straight sections along toward Silbury Hill. To the west the line of the Roman Road is clearly visible as far as Sandy Lane where it disappears into the wooded area of Spye Park and you can pick it up again in a long straight section as far as the woods above Bathford.

    The Wansdyke itself ( a defensive ditch and bank ascribed to the 5th / 6th centuries AD) can also be followed along the hills bounding the north of Pewsey Vale as far as Shaw Copse.

    If you want to follow another Roman Road not too far away try the Winchester-Mildenhall route which leaves Winchester as the B3420. This stretch includes the famous "Chute Causeway" where the surveyors decided not to inflict a steep descent followed by a comparably steep ascent on the soldiers and put the road round the rim of the declivity.

    Mildenhall ("Mynal") has a church distinguished by Box Pews and was a favourite of Sir John Betjeman who used to walk to it from Marlborough when at school there.

    Maybe others have special places to share.
  • Nick Armstrong
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 26533

    #2
    I shall move this into 'The Tourist Office' if I may...

    A most interesting post, cliveh
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • marthe

      #3
      Indeed interesting! In the mid-1970s, my husband and I were part of an archaeological team that worked in Cricklade, Wilts. We we're investigating Anglo-Saxon features but Roman material was certainly present. In the 1950s, archaeologists found and excavated a small section of Ermine Street near Cricklade. Cirencester (Roman Corinium) is just up the road. The local museum has some on-line images available.

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      • Old Grumpy
        Full Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 3611

        #4
        Clive, have you tried the online OS map (Getamap)? At £20 per year, I reckon it is a bargain. The digital map is continuously updated and therefore always bang up to date. I can spend hours online comparing the OS maps (1:50 000 or 1:25 000 depending on how far you zoom in) with the aerial mapping on Google. Street view is quite fun too - to follow a road or view a village or similar.

        I, know, sad or what eh?

        OG

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20570

          #5
          Originally posted by clive heath View Post
          If anyone shares my interest/ mild obsession with maps and have enjoyed the extra insight that aerial views allow, this is for you.
          My obsession with maps isn't mild at all. It's extreme. I have a large collection of books on the subject, not including the atlases and OS, Harvey's and Bartholomew maps. I actually sold some old music to buy a GPS SatMap.

          So, Clive, your post was among the most interesting I've ever read on platform 3. Roman Roads that fascinate me are High Street in the Lake District and the A15 in Lincolnshire, which supposedly has the longest stretch of absolutely straight road in Britain.

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37676

            #6
            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            My obsession with maps isn't mild at all. It's extreme. I have a large collection of books on the subject, not including the atlases and OS, Harvey's and Bartholomew maps. I actually sold some old music to buy a GPS SatMap.

            So, Clive, your post was among the most interesting I've ever read on platform 3. Roman Roads that fascinate me are High Street in the Lake District and the A15 in Lincolnshire, which supposedly has the longest stretch of absolutely straight road in Britain.
            If anyone wants old OS maps, there was an old bloke selling them for £1.50 each in the Crystal palace covered market a year ago. Must check and see if he's still there.

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            • Gordon
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1425

              #7
              I collect old OS maps to see where old railways went!! I wear 2 anoraks when I go out.

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              • mangerton
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3346

                #8
                Originally posted by Gordon View Post
                I collect old OS maps to see where old railways went!! I wear 2 anoraks when I go out.
                Join the club! I do that too. It's a fascinating pastime.

                The National Library of Scotland has an amazing collection of maps. Amongst other things it allows you to merge old and new maps to see what changes have occurred.

                EA, Yes, I was on the A15 when I went to Lincoln a few years ago. A pity about the small detour at Scampton.

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                • Old Grumpy
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                  • Jan 2011
                  • 3611

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                  A pity about the small detour at Scampton.
                  Red Arrers gotta fly from somewhere!

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                  • arancie33
                    Full Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 137

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                    A pity about the small detour at Scampton.
                    Sorry about that See avatar!

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20570

                      #11
                      Originally posted by arancie33 View Post
                      Sorry about that See avatar!

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                      • clive heath

                        #12
                        Thankyou for all your interest. I'm just going to make a few more observations and that'll be it!

                        If you followed the Roman Road toward Silbury Hill in the first example you might have noticed that the line was tangential to the hill suggesting that the surveyor had not stood on the hill when setting out the route.

                        A lot of Roman Roads in England are almost totally tarmacked over e.g. Ermin Street which goes from Newbury to Cirencester and then Gloucester mostly as the B4000, A419, A417 and also some local roads.

                        Looking at the route from Old Sarum to Badbury Rings, we find less in the way of main roads.



                        after zooming in one notch, starts us off on the south-west alignment. The line (again tangential to the Old Sarum circular ditch and bank) goes by the d of Wilton Rd and the 4 of A3094. If you follow the line, apart from some indeterminacy around the steep chalk downs near Bishopstone and picking the line up again at Knighton Wood where the A354 joins for a short distance you can easily follow the road to Badbury Rings which is the circular blob next to High Wood just before the B3082.

                        You will see that the road is tangential to the rings as is the short section of Roman Road that arrives from Shapwick. For possible reasons why these (mis-) alignments are as they are you would have to read "The Old Straight Track" by Alfred Watkins and I'd better stop there before you think I'm a tree hugger or read horoscopes or ......

                        We consider ourselves very fortunate to have picked up a nearly complete set of Michelin Maps of the UK mainland ( in Dufftown of all places).



                        The earliest doesn't have road numbers but the rest do and encourage drivers to be aware! Less detailed than contemporary OS they nevertheless show railway lines as you can see on this section of Wiltshire.

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                        • mangerton
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3346

                          #13
                          Originally posted by arancie33 View Post
                          Sorry about that See avatar!

                          I see it, I see it! No criticism was intended or implied. The Defence of the Realm is of course of prime importance.

                          It's just intriguing to see - and to drive!

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                          • arancie33
                            Full Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 137

                            #14
                            And while I'm here, I have to say that I love maps too. I can sit for hours just reading them, imagining the ground or re-living old journeys. I have my parents' AA Road book of England and Wales from 1950 with umpteen gazetteer entries, routes and lovely maps (Bartholomew) at five miles to the inch i.e. c300,000. The A15 is arrow straight and all of the bypasses which are, sadly, so necessary now are conspicuous by their absence.

                            As a family we drove from Oxford to Scotland (parents' home)many times, and I recall the Fosse Way going north from Leicester (A46 then as now). I always lived in hope that on one of our stops en route, I would find a Roman helmet casually slung into the hedge. Honestly! - I was a very optimistic little boy.

                            And finally, has anybody else read "A Legion Marching By" by John Hynam? It's a short story, my copy is in Rosemary Timperley's EighthGhost Book (Pan,1974). It is good for a goose pimple or six!

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                            • John Wright
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 705

                              #15
                              Clive, just noticed this thread.

                              I drive on the Fosse Way every week, in Warwickshire, the B4455 stretch that covers Brinklow, Bretford, Stretton-on-Dunsmore, Princethorpe, Eathorpe and to the roundabout near Ufton.

                              What is curious to me is how UN-straight this section of road is, particularly south of Eathorpe (there's now a bypass round Eathorpe). Looking on Google maps it does look straight but on the ground it is not, and though land is not flat it is far from hilly.

                              Just curious why that stretch of 5-10km has lots of bends. Unfortunately it is an accident blackspot with several casulties every year.

                              - - -

                              John W

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