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  • oddoneout
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    • Nov 2015
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    Happened to drop in on this thread by accident(arthritic fumble fingers) and got sidetracked by the idea of green Jews as a cooking ingredient. A little bit of searching explained, but I'm not sure my life has been enriched by knowing that this year's prolific veg patch means that I have been indulging in this dubious practice on a near daily basis...

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    • french frank
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      • Feb 2007
      • 30213

      Originally posted by smittims View Post
      I remember a R4 discussion on ghost-writing where Mariella Frostrup claimed to be surprised to hear that cokkery books aren't written by the celeb chefs who appear on the front cover
      The only one I have written by a 'celeb chef' (since I haven't had a TV for nigh on 30 years I know very little about such cooks) is Escoffier's classic Ma Cuisine. I also had one issued to my father during the war when he was volunteered to be ship's cook: I pity the crew

      Originally posted by smittims View Post
      When I said ' I just heat things up ' I didn't mean 're-heat'. I meant taking two rashers of bacon out of the fridge and putting them under the grill, ad boiling an egg. I dont call that 'cooking'.
      No, I don't call that cooking but many would; and if that's what you're happy to eat most of the time, cooking is basically applying heat to raw ingredients (stewing, boiling, steaming, sautéing, sear frying, pan frying, deep fat frying, grilling, confiting, roasting, pot roasting, baking &c). It's about what you cook, how you cook it, how you season it &c. That doesn't have to come from a cookery book. I just cook what I fancy, is nutricious, what's around, what I'm curious about on a waste-not-want-not basis … but I fear green Jews aren't likely to be on the menu - is that Jew's Mallow/molokhia? We don't have it round our way Sounds good.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • oddoneout
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        • Nov 2015
        • 9136

        Originally posted by french frank View Post

        The only one I have written by a 'celeb chef' (since I haven't had a TV for nigh on 30 years I know very little about such cooks) is Escoffier's classic Ma Cuisine. I also had one issued to my father during the war when he was volunteered to be ship's cook: I pity the crew



        No, I don't call that cooking but many would; and if that's what you're happy to eat most of the time, cooking is basically applying heat to raw ingredients (stewing, boiling, steaming, sautéing, sear frying, pan frying, deep fat frying, grilling, confiting, roasting, pot roasting, baking &c). It's about what you cook, how you cook it, how you season it &c. That doesn't have to come from a cookery book. I just cook what I fancy, is nutricious, what's around, what I'm curious about on a waste-not-want-not basis … but I fear green Jews aren't likely to be on the menu - is that Jew's Mallow/molokhia? We don't have it round our way Sounds good.
        They quite possibly have been already - they are green(French or runner, doesn't seem to matter) beans... It was the "judias" which set me looking, as I thought it would be a bit odd if it was Jews, but my only experience of the Spanish language is a term of "introduction to" evening classes 20 years ago done for lack of further French classes rather than because I was going to be visiting Spain or encountering Spanish speakers, so I thought I might have been jumping to wrong conclusions.
        More recipes(and language practice?) here!
        Las judías verdes son conocidas con muchos nombres: ya solo en España según la zona se llaman alubias verdes, habichuelas, vainas, caparrones verdes, troncheras, bajoques, frejones y varios nombres más. Y en Latinoamérica pasa lo mismo: chauchas, ejotes, frijoles verdes, vainitas, porotos verdes, vainitas… pero no importa cómo les llamemos, lo importante es que os hemos preparado 13 recetas con judías […]

        Which gave me a chance to try and work out what the "reject all" cookie option was in Spanish...

        Had to double check the beans and beens there.

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        • french frank
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          • Feb 2007
          • 30213

          Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

          They quite possibly have been already - they are green(French or runner, doesn't seem to matter) beans...
          Judías are beans, judíos are Jews. Coincidentally, I went down to do some shopping at El Colmado this morning - valdeón, dressed olives and cooking chorizo; and on the way back it seemed just the moment to call in at Bomba for a bit of lunch. The tapas were very tasty, but the real discovery was the Spanish liqueur Licor 43 (and also Bomba's apple chutney).

          The judías verdes recipes look very interesting. As it happens I bought some young runner beans yesterday so I might try a recipe using those. Though the Jew's mallow/molokhia sounds like a superfood. Pity it's unobtainable here. But my greengrocer is Egyptian - perhaps he'll know how to import some for me
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • oddoneout
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            • Nov 2015
            • 9136

            Originally posted by french frank View Post

            Judías are beans, judíos are Jews. Coincidentally, I went down to do some shopping at El Colmado this morning - valdeón, dressed olives and cooking chorizo; and on the way back it seemed just the moment to call in at Bomba for a bit of lunch. The tapas were very tasty, but the real discovery was the Spanish liqueur Licor 43 (and also Bomba's apple chutney).

            The judías verdes recipes look very interesting. As it happens I bought some young runner beans yesterday so I might try a recipe using those. Though the Jew's mallow/molokhia sounds like a superfood. Pity it's unobtainable here. But my greengrocer is Egyptian - perhaps he'll know how to import some for me
            I did read several entries in the search results, such as this

            and this
            Green beans are, in Spanish, "judías verdes" - why? What is the connection? Were Jewish people known for eating a lot of green beans, or what?

            hence my comments.
            I'm intrigued by the Jew's mallow as that was the common name I grew up with for a useful and pretty spring flowering shrub, Kerria japonica. As one might expect these days it tends to go by its Latin name, which fortunately is easy. I will in due course look into it a bit further, but a cursory search suggests that the classic problem of common names applying to several completely different plants may be an issue.

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            • Barbirollians
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              • Nov 2010
              • 11663

              Brodetto - Italian fish soup

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              • Joseph K
                Banned
                • Oct 2017
                • 7765

                Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                I just made tofu & potatoes in miso & mushroom gravy. It's a vegan recipe by Isa Chandra Moskowitz which is really tasty. It's been quite a while since I made it because it's a bit time-consuming - so much so that the miso was out of date, but it shouldn't matter. Since my mum is out for the afternoon I decided to make it early and warm it up later - also took advantage of the opportunity to listen to a couple of albums I have on bandcamp via my phone whilst making it:

                Wayne Krantz - Greenwich Mean

                Ant Law - The Sleeper Wakes

                Because I like to have it with rice, I tend not to use many potatoes and instead use more tofu.

                Can share a picture of the recipe if anyone's interested.
                I made this recipe, first posted here on 06-06-21, this afternoon. As I say, it takes a long time to prepare, but that's largely down to my predilection for using many more shallots than the recipe actually stipulates, which I do because a) I like them, b) I like to have more portions, so increase the amount of every ingredient and c) buying a bag of them, if I only used the two that the recipe requires, then the rest of the shallots would go off (which they might still do, but at least most have been used now). I started preparing the stew at around 2:30 and finished, leaving it to simmer for half an hour, at around 4:15. I was able to listen to a few cuts from Miles Davis's Bitches Brew until my mum came home from a walk, after which we listened to her CD of the best of Cream. As I mention, I only use a couple of potatoes, and in addition to tofu, I fried six veggie sausages which I sliced and added.

                It was so delicious, and it's so nice still having the taste lingering in my mouth! I can share the recipe again if anyone's interested, bearing in mind that I heavily customise it. Gotta love that umami miso flavour.
                Last edited by Joseph K; 07-10-23, 20:21.

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                • teamsaint
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25190

                  Originally posted by Joseph K View Post

                  I made this recipe, first posted here on 06-06-21, this afternoon. As I say, it takes a long time to prepare, but that's largely down to my predilection for using many more shallots than the recipe actually stipulates, which I do because a) I like them, b) I like to have more portions, so increase the amount of every ingredient and c) buying a bag of them, if I only used the two that the recipe requires, then the rest of the shallots would go off (which they might still do, but at least most have been used now). I started preparing the stew at around 2:30 and finished, leaving it to simmer for half an hour, at around 4:15. I was able to listen to a few cuts from Miles Davis's Bitches Brew until my mum came home from a walk, after which we listened to her CD of the best of Cream. As I mention, I only use a couple of potatoes, and in addition to tofu, I fried six veggie sausages which I sliced and added.

                  It was so delicious, and it's so nice still having the taste lingering in my mouth! I can share the recipe again if anyone's interested, bearing in mind that I heavily customise it. Gotta love that umami miso flavour.
                  I don’t share your enthusiasm for Tofu, JK, but sounds as though you had a good feed !!

                  first Shepherds pie of the autumn tonight, or is it a cottage pie ? What is the difference ?
                  anyway, mine get whatever is to hand, currently courgettes, leek, a nibble of lamb mince etc. Looked good and tasted very nice, IIMSS.

                  I like recipes I can prepare and then sling in the over while I have a small drink ( G and T tonight) and listen to a few tunes. Although today I cooked early, and as I wasn’t actually at the footy, I listened to Saints making a right old mess of their game, on Radio Solent.
                  not the first time, won’t be the last…..
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
                    • 10872

                    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post

                    I don’t share your enthusiasm for Tofu, JK, but sounds as though you had a good feed !!

                    first Shepherds pie of the autumn tonight, or is it a cottage pie ? What is the difference ?
                    anyway, mine get whatever is to hand, currently courgettes, leek, a nibble of lamb mince etc. Looked good and tasted very nice, IIMSS.

                    I like recipes I can prepare and then sling in the over while I have a small drink ( G and T tonight) and listen to a few tunes. Although today I cooked early, and as I wasn’t actually at the footy, I listened to Saints making a right old mess of their game, on Radio Solent.
                    not the first time, won’t be the last…..
                    Isn't it as simple as shepherd = lamb, cottage = beef?

                    Similar lack of enthusiasm for tofu here.

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                    • french frank
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                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30213

                      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

                      Isn't it as simple as shepherd = lamb, cottage = beef?

                      Similar lack of enthusiasm for tofu here.
                      I thought that. Tofu hasn't as yet attracted my interest but it has a nutritional value. I just feel there are other 'filling' options: pasta, bulgar wheat, rice, bread, potatoes, some tastier thn others. I shall try tofu some time though.

                      Forgot to say I'm cooking eej today.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • vinteuil
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12768

                        .
                        ... "what are you cooking now" is the title, but not appropriate here - today was a production by Mme v -

                        home-made gravad lax
                        steamed purple sprouting broccoli
                        kuku sabzi
                        Celebrate Iranian new year with a traditional Persian dish – kuku sabzi, a herb frittata with barberries. It makes a colourful addition to any family feast

                        (tho' her recipe is from Sabrina Ghayour's Persiana, much recommended)
                        green salad
                        (I provided nice cheeses and interesting wine)

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                        • teamsaint
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25190

                          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

                          Isn't it as simple as shepherd = lamb, cottage = beef?

                          Similar lack of enthusiasm for tofu here.
                          Ah yes, that makes sense.
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • french frank
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                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30213

                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            (I provided nice cheeses and interesting wine)
                            Wait! What cheeses? I keep thinking there should be a thread entitled Cheese (and Sherry, if it comes to that). Why isn't there?

                            I have a chaource waiting for tomorrow's Gratin champenois (Tartiflette in other parts of the country, but where can I get Reblochon round these parts?)
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • vinteuil
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12768

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post

                              Wait! What cheeses? I keep thinking there should be a thread entitled Cheese (and Sherry, if it comes to that). Why isn't there?

                              I have a chaource waiting for tomorrow's Gratin champenois (Tartiflette in other parts of the country, but where can I get Reblochon round these parts?)
                              ... well, I hadn't had a chance to go to la fromagerie

                              Buy individual cheeses, or mix and match to create your own cheeseboard.


                              so it was just what could be got from tescoes - manchego, camembert, comté​, langres...

                              And the wines - a franciacorta brut, a rosé villány heumann, a saint-pourçain​...

                              For reblochon - well, waitrose has it - as do tesco :



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                              • Joseph K
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 7765

                                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post

                                I don’t share your enthusiasm for Tofu, JK, but sounds as though you had a good feed !!

                                first Shepherds pie of the autumn tonight, or is it a cottage pie ? What is the difference ?
                                anyway, mine get whatever is to hand, currently courgettes, leek, a nibble of lamb mince etc. Looked good and tasted very nice, IIMSS.

                                I like recipes I can prepare and then sling in the over while I have a small drink ( G and T tonight) and listen to a few tunes. Although today I cooked early, and as I wasn’t actually at the footy, I listened to Saints making a right old mess of their game, on Radio Solent.
                                not the first time, won’t be the last…..
                                The tofu is not something I'd consider integral to this recipe. It's a mighty fine stew with or without tofu.

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