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  • Flosshilde
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    • Nov 2010
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    Originally posted by Anna View Post
    I'm not sure that a bit of marmalade on toast is so harmful in moderation, it's eating grapefruit and drinking grapefruit juice that is the danger. But, if you were to label everything that interacted with drugs you'd have to put stickers on lettuces and other vegs high in Vitamin K (which interact with Warfarin) and also cranberries and their juice has an adverse effect on some statins or heart drugs I think. I would assume those on medication have been told what to avoid?
    The information should be in the patient information leaflets with the drugs, which also list various side effects, which in most cases appear to include the thing your taking the drug for!


    I've made lemon marmalade without additional pectin; surprisingly it was sweeter than the Seville orange marmalade.

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    • Beef Oven

      Anyone got a good marmalade recipe for a first-timer?
      Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 08-06-13, 18:33. Reason: Kicking off a new discussion here

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      • Pabmusic
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        • May 2011
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        I haven't waded through two years of posts, but has anyone made marmalade with quinces? You still see quince bushes around, and the original marmalade used quinces (Portuguese marmelo = quince).

        I've never tried it.

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        • Beef Oven

          Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
          I haven't waded through two years of posts, but has anyone made marmalade with quinces? You still see quince bushes around, and the original marmalade used quinces (Portuguese marmelo = quince).

          I've never tried it.
          It's delicious. My mum and my wife both make it. They are both immigrants, English people don't make it in my experience (although I could be wrong).


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          • Pabmusic
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            • May 2011
            • 5537

            Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
            It's delicious. My mum and my wife both make it. They are both immigrants, English people don't make it in my experience (although I could be wrong).

            I think that orange marmalade took over (in the 18th century?) and the poor old quinces were ignored.

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            • Nick Armstrong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 26540

              Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
              quinces? ... the original marmalade used quinces (Portuguese marmelo = quince)
              I didn't know that was the origin of the word.

              It gets a from me too.

              Quince preserve is one of my favourite things to put on crusty baguette and good butter. In France, they call it 'gelée de coings' (quince jelly) but I suppose it's the same thing? It's usually quite sweet, more like a jam - perhaps quince marmalade should be more tart?

              Anyway, the familiar commercial version can be bought over here by mail order:

              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Beef Oven

                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                I didn't know that was the origin of the word.

                It gets a from me too.

                Quince preserve is one of my favourite things to put on crusty baguette and good butter. In France, they call it 'gelée de coings' (quince jelly) but I suppose it's the same thing? It's usually quite sweet, more like a jam - perhaps quince marmalade should be more tart?

                Anyway, the familiar commercial version can be bought over here by mail order:

                http://www.chanteroy-online.co.uk/pr...elee-de-coings
                The best quinces are from Iran, Syria, Turkey, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Quince preserve/jam/whatever, should be tart, I believe.

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                • amateur51

                  Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                  I didn't know that was the origin of the word.

                  It gets a from me too.

                  Quince preserve is one of my favourite things to put on crusty baguette and good butter. In France, they call it 'gelée de coings' (quince jelly) but I suppose it's the same thing? It's usually quite sweet, more like a jam - perhaps quince marmalade should be more tart?

                  Anyway, the familiar commercial version can be bought over here by mail order:

                  http://www.chanteroy-online.co.uk/pr...elee-de-coings
                  In Spain they make a sweet paste they call dulce de membrillo. You can buy membrillo, often at the cheese counter (for it goes well with cheese, classically manchego in Spain, in supermarkets (Waitrose is a good bet)

                  A recipe :



                  but you do need lots of quince(s)* and it does look to be a terrific faff. I'm off to Waitrose, me

                  *what is the plural of quince? - quinces or quince?

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                  • Pabmusic
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                    • May 2011
                    • 5537

                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    I didn't know that was the origin of the word...
                    Yes indeed. First appearance in English was 1480 (according to the OED) from Portuguese filtered through French.

                    There is a lovely (and wholly false) folk etymology that attributes it to the retinue of Mary Queen of Scots. Mary's first language was French and most of her attendants were. It is said that she liked this delicious conserve as a palliative when she was unwell, and the term 'marmalade' is a corruption of 'Marie est malade'.

                    Not a grain of truth in it, though.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26540

                      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                      paste
                      Oh yes! They gave me a little slice at that French restaurant in Smithfield the other week, to go with cheese. It was quite hard and concentrated in flavour.
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Beef Oven

                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        I didn't know that was the origin of the word.
                        I'm sure the origin is explained earlier in this thread, or maybe I read it elsewhere.

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                        • Pabmusic
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                          • May 2011
                          • 5537

                          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                          ...what is the plural of quince? - quinces or quince?
                          I'd go for quinces. Though in fact 'quince' was a plural - the original fruit being quoyn or quyne (quoyns = quince). But that's so archaic you can't revive it by being pedantic.

                          Others will disagree.

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                          • Beef Oven

                            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                            I'd go for quinces. Though in fact 'quince' was a plural - the original fruit being quoyn or quyne (quoyns = quince). But that's so archaic you can't revive it by being pedantic.

                            Others will disagree.
                            Others will disagree true, but it's no big deal. Like fish and fishes, we English speaking peoples are blessed to have it both ways!

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                            • Pabmusic
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                              • May 2011
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                              Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                              Others will disagree true, but it's no big deal. Like fish and fishes, we English speaking peoples are blessed to have it both ways!
                              Absolutely. In fact, fish and fishes could be a model. Quince for the overall view of the plant, quinces when you focus on individual fruits.

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                              • Beef Oven

                                Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                                Absolutely.
                                Relatively speaking

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