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  • cloughie
    Full Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 22126

    #76
    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
    See p22 of this user manual - https://www.lakeland.co.uk/content/d...ions_15352.pdf

    I use strong bread flour - and make the smallest of the loaves for recipes 1 or 2. I might try brown flour tonight, but apart from the flour the recipe and procedure is the same. Later on I may try the French or the Rustic French recipes, but it's possible the crusts will start to become inpenetrable!
    I’ve successfully been using bread machine for around 13.5 yrs now and only occasionally buy bread nowadays. i’ve tried a variety of combinations - currently 400g loaf - 200g strong white, 100g rye, 100g wholemeal.

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    • Pulcinella
      Host
      • Feb 2014
      • 10944

      #77
      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
      I’ve successfully been using bread machine for around 13.5 yrs now and only occasionally buy bread nowadays. i’ve tried a variety of combinations - currently 400g loaf - 200g strong white, 100g rye, 100g wholemeal.
      500g standard here at Casa Pulcinella: 350g wholemeal and 150g strong white.
      Usually supermarket brand bread flour, but the last delivery included Allinson's VERY STRONG wholemeal, and it certainly is, so (after a first rather solid effort) the proportions are interchanged when using that flour.
      I use sunflower oil (2 tbsp) instead of the 25g fat/margarine.
      Occasionally I get adventurous and add a couple of teaspoons of caraway seeds, or even substitute some of the flour with oat bran.
      Our local baker has a nice Country Crunch flour that was available during the first lockdown, and although they no longer stock it regularly (not enough sales) they said they were happy to deliver some on order when I next need some.
      The thing that took the longest to get right was the amount of water to add: in general it's less than the recipe suggests, but different flours do seem to need different amounts.

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      • Dave2002
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 18016

        #78
        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        I’ve successfully been using bread machine for around 13.5 yrs now and only occasionally buy bread nowadays. i’ve tried a variety of combinations - currently 400g loaf - 200g strong white, 100g rye, 100g wholemeal.
        In the end I used a half and half mix of wholemeal and white bread flour last night - 200g of each. Program 5 in the book - 5 hours overnight. Now waiting to try it.

        We had to buy an electric knife to cut through the bread we make more reliably, otherwise the "slices" are very erratic.

        We've had several bread machines over the years. The latest one is the best, though the previous one is still being used not far from here. The blade in the last one got stuck in - "baked" in - and we couldn't get it out, but it still worked/works. Trying to avoid that happening with the newest one.

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        • LHC
          Full Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1557

          #79
          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          I’ve successfully been using bread machine for around 13.5 yrs now and only occasionally buy bread nowadays. i’ve tried a variety of combinations - currently 400g loaf - 200g strong white, 100g rye, 100g wholemeal.
          We also have a bread machine, which we have been using for 10+ years (actually, we are on our third machine).

          I previously used a mixture of supermarket strong white and wholemeal or brown flour. However, when this was unavailable during the first lockdown our local deli and wholefood store managed to get a pallet of various flours from a local miller, Marriage's Master Millers, which was much better than the supermarket own brand. I now use a mixture of their Strong White bread flour and their Golden Wholegrain (200g of each), which makes a really lovely loaf. Their flours are stocked by Ocado, so we now get it as part of our regular delivery. The full range of flours can be seen here:

          "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
          Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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          • Dave2002
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 18016

            #80
            We seem to have diverted away from grumbles to recipes. Wrong thread?

            Today's bread was good - which keeps up my small record - 100% success - but over a considerably larger sample "we" have had a few failures. Some were due to power failures, and occasionally missing or miscalculated or stale ingredients. One comment is that "sometimes the bread is different even though the ingredients and procedures are as close as reasonably possible to previous attempts".

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            • cloughie
              Full Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 22126

              #81
              Originally posted by LHC View Post
              We also have a bread machine, which we have been using for 10+ years (actually, we are on our third machine).

              I previously used a mixture of supermarket strong white and wholemeal or brown flour. However, when this was unavailable during the first lockdown our local deli and wholefood store managed to get a pallet of various flours from a local miller, Marriage's Master Millers, which was much better than the supermarket own brand. I now use a mixture of their Strong White bread flour and their Golden Wholegrain (200g of each), which makes a really lovely loaf. Their flours are stocked by Ocado, so we now get it as part of our regular delivery. The full range of flours can be seen here:

              https://flour.co.uk/our-range/home-baking
              I had a similar experience during lockdown and a local health food store delivered a selection of £27 of flour for me and a neighbour - yes the flour quality was excellent and yes, better than the supermarket. I’m on my 2nd bread machine (7+ years old now) and use it 2 or 3 times per week. As well as working out as a very economical way of making bread it has the advantage that I know what has gone into it eg amount of salt!

              Looking like this is far from a grumble topic - we need a Bread Thread! - Dough! K

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37687

                #82
                Many of you people seem to be very well-bread!

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                • Dave2002
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18016

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                  Many of you people seem to be very well-bread!
                  Do we knead to rise to that?

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                  • cloughie
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 22126

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                    Do we knead to rise to that?
                    No leave it to the machine!

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                    • vinteuil
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12836

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                      Many of you people seem to be very well-bread!
                      ... a roll-call of loafers if you ask me!

                      Mme v makes bread with no need for machinery - a soda bread incorporating many nuts and seeds. A little on the heavy side for use as 'bread', but makes the most excellent toast. For 'bread' bread, our local waitrose often has its sourdough at much reduced prices when approaching sell-by dates : we stock up, and deep-freeze them - they unfreeze easily, and are excellent when warmed through.

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                      • eighthobstruction
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6439

                        #86
                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        ... a roll-call of loafers if you ask me!

                        Mme v makes bread with no need for machinery - a soda bread incorporating many nuts and seeds. A little on the heavy side for use as 'bread', but makes the most excellent toast. For 'bread' bread, our local waitrose often has its sourdough at much reduced prices when approaching sell-by dates : we stock up, and deep-freeze them - they unfreeze easily, and are excellent when warmed through.

                        .
                        ....sounds like you still have all [most of]your own teeth....i'm jealous of your bread v.....
                        bong ching

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26536

                          #87
                          The Bread Thread

                          As requested.

                          No bread eaten here so have fun, folks
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22126

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                            As requested.

                            No bread eaten here so have fun, folks
                            Hey man, thanks for the bread!

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20570

                              #89
                              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                              What flour mix do you use?
                              Strong stoneground wholemeal - always.

                              I recommend the flour ground at the National Trust watermill at Dunster Castle, near Minehead. The addition of organic soya flour is a worthwhile option.

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30294

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                                Strong stoneground wholemeal - always.

                                I recommend the flour ground at the National Trust watermill at Dunster Castle, near Minehead. The addition of organic soya flour is a worthwhile option.
                                I've been able to get Shipton Mill wholemeal locally but have found supplies of strong white bread flour more difficult. As it is I've been baking my … delicious … 100% wholemeal loaves and wondering now and again whether I might not prefer a couple of Ryvitas for a change

                                I see Shipton Mill can be ordered online**, as many different flours as you could wish. They say white flours will last, properly stored, for up to a year, wholemeal for 6 months.

                                **No personal interest to declare
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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