Georges Duboeuf 1933-2020

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  • Keraulophone
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    • Nov 2010
    • 1945

    #16
    Originally posted by Andy Freude View Post
    Glougabilité


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    • Alain Maréchal
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      • Dec 2010
      • 1286

      #17
      Not found in my Larousse. I see what it tries to express, but it suggests sanitation. (you may have inadvertently suggested a use for BN). Any wine I consider fit to drink is sipped.

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      • Keraulophone
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        • Nov 2010
        • 1945

        #18
        Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
        I see what it tries to express, but it suggests sanitation.
        Sanitation? Eh?

        Gluggable:
        Collins Dictionary has: “informal - (of wine) easy and pleasant to drink“

        It is commonly drunk fairly quickly and in quantity as it’s a wine of little complexity and thin texture, but it is the cause of what is now an insignificant bit of vinous fun at the local wine bar (or in the kitchen) each November.
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        • cloughie
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          • Dec 2011
          • 22122

          #19
          Originally posted by Andy Freude View Post
          Glougabilité

          Is that from the glou vine?

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          • vinteuil
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12832

            #20
            Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
            Any wine I consider fit to drink is sipped.
            ... in which you limit yourself. Brillat-Savarin and Grimod de La Reynière assumed that there would be two kinds of wine available to diners : a vin ordinaire for slaking the thirst, and then, as a quite distinct and separate experience, the 'good' and 'interesting' wines for sipping. 'Gluggability' is a very positive term to describe what one is looking for in the former.


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            • Keraulophone
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              • Nov 2010
              • 1945

              #21
              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
              ... in which you limit yourself. Brillat-Savarin and Grimod de La Reynière assumed that there would be two kinds of wine available to diners : a vin ordinaire for slaking the thirst, and then, as a quite distinct and separate experience, the 'good' and 'interesting' wines for sipping. 'Gluggability' is a very positive term to describe what one is looking for in the former.


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              Exactement.

              Merci, vinteuil.


              (Armenian Christmas today!)

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              • Andy Freude

                #22
                Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
                Any wine I consider fit to drink is sipped.
                Well, monsieur, I think that is a very ENGLISH attitude, if I may say so. All wine-drinking is special, the wine must have a good label, vintage - and price; and be sold to us by a reputable supplier. Otherwise it is undrinkable. No. Vins ordinaires, vins de table are for daily domestic consumption when a large jug of water does not satisfy. Beaujolais nouveau will do very nicely at such times.

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                • Barbirollians
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 11686

                  #23
                  A byword for reliability in Beaujolais albeit I must admit it is a long time since I have drunk a Duboeuf bottle . It used to drive a friend of mine mad that his sister would drink nothing but Duboeuf's Fleurie.

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                  • Alain Maréchal
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1286

                    #24
                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                    a vin ordinaire for slaking the thirst

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                    You overlook my nationality M.V. The only liquids with which* I slake the thirst are water and...?

                    Also, Andy Freude, that is such an insult that I may be forced to ask you and a friend to join me and a friend on the dunes of Blankenberge!

                    *"with which" - I think the English language has missed the chance of a compound there, as in "outwith": I propose "whichwith".

                    ps last night's Duboeuf 2017 was disappointing, but then Beaujolais has never been among my favourite wines, and I drink it seldomly. (seldomly?)

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                    • vinteuil
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12832

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
                      You overlook my nationality M.V.
                      ... o no I don't. Even Belgians can learn something from the French.
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                      Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
                      I drink it seldomly. (seldomly?)
                      "I seldom drink it."

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                      • Alain Maréchal
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1286

                        #26
                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        ... o no I don't. Even Belgians can learn something from the French.
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                        "I seldom drink it."

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                        I'm not sure about the efficiency of wine as a thirst-slaker. It never works for me; I think the fairly high alcohol content would prevent the rapid absorption of the water content. There must be scientific research into this.
                        Last edited by Alain Maréchal; 06-01-20, 12:27. Reason: removal of insulting comment about the French

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                        • Stunsworth
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1553

                          #27
                          When I worked in France everyone in the office would say that BN was terrible, and invented to sell poor wine to the English. Then when the day came we'd all trapse along to the nearest cafe, quaff the stuff and discuss whether this year's tasted of bubblegum or pear drops.

                          There was a cafe on rue de Commerce that gave free glasses of it to passers by. Photo taken in 2002...

                          Steve

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                          • Alain Maréchal
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1286

                            #28
                            Many wine areas produce primeur for the reasons I suggested in post #3. I was invited to a tasting of our local wine, Saint-Pourçain. The red tasted, as I expected, of floor polish (ask not how I knew), in addition to the usual St-P length of iron filings and cold tea. If you want to try St-P avoid the produce of the Union des Vignerons and look for the estate-bottled. Sybille Bedford and Elizabeth David both enjoyed it, drunk locally. The usual description is "it does not travel well".

                            I would suggest to Stunsworth that the cafe on Rue de Commerce had found the right market price.
                            Last edited by Alain Maréchal; 06-01-20, 14:21. Reason: moderation of quoted enthusiasm.

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                            • Andy Freude

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
                              Also, Andy Freude, that is such an insult that I may be forced to ask you and a friend to join me and a friend on the dunes of Blankenberge!
                              Splendid idea! I'll bring the wine (a muscadet, perhaps?), you can supply the local moules marinières. But can we wait until the weather gets a little warmer?

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                              • Alain Maréchal
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                                • Dec 2010
                                • 1286

                                #30
                                if we wait until it is warmer then they will be out of season. Unfortunately I am allergic to them. You might like to try Waterzooi, which has a shellfish-free version. Gros Plant Nantais, I think, for the wine, but of course I think a Rodenbach might suit.

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