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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37671

    #31
    Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
    I don't mind the look of One Hyde Park. I think it is quite striking.

    And it is amazing that you manage to grind your politicial axe even when discussing architecture......
    To me this looks like racks one might store files on in an impersonal office, or shelves at Halfords

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    • Stillhomewardbound
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      • Nov 2010
      • 1109

      #32
      Originally posted by salymap View Post
      A young boy has dropped his box of Meccano on the London I knew years ago.


      Beautiful photo shb but not my London of the mid 20th century. Progress??
      I couldn't agree more, Salymap. There's progress, but then there's also brutishness. What I see here does no impress me. It is ugly, grey and overbearing.

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      • Stillhomewardbound
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1109

        #33
        Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
        Oh no, I can't agree there. The Palace of Westminster is magnificent.
        I don't believe with was Barry's Palace of Westminster that was meant, which I agree entirely is something of a wonder. Rather, it was Portcullis House. Got up to look like a collection of of old Northern milltown chimney stacks.

        Btw, I believe you are an admirer of the Shard, so, here you go.

        I was asked by a friend what filter I had used to create the blue impression. 'None', I replied.

        Look at the green of the trees which is true green. so I couldn't / wouldn't have overlayed a particular effect.

        There are ingredients that go to make strong photography and biggest of these can be said to be the ambience. Hence, I'm a weather-chaser who on many an occasion has cycled halfway across London for a particular sunset, only to see the sun disappear behind a band of clouds.

        As I've said, last night I rushed out to get great sunset shots and got something very different. It's a question of timing and being there at the right time.


        Last edited by Stillhomewardbound; 10-10-13, 23:38.

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        • mercia
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 8920

          #34
          I'm certainly glad we've moved on from this style of architecture

          if the British Library wasn't in red-brick I would find it rather grim

          not sure about Portcullis House, it's rather four-square and unrelieved black (are those chimneys functional ?) - but the atrium looks impressive
          I would think the Palace of Westminster is a fairly impractical building to work in, don't the inhabitants spend all day walking up and down corridors ?
          I like some modern architecture and not others. I don't expect architecture to be stuck in the 19th century any more than I expect other artforms to be.
          Last edited by mercia; 11-10-13, 07:14.

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          • Dave2002
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            • Dec 2010
            • 18014

            #35
            Originally posted by Stillhomewardbound View Post
            But, it has to be admitted that grotesquerie has come this way before. Although set low down in the skyline I can still the neo-gothic horror that sits on Mincing Lance, Minster Court, and appearing before it the Tower Bridge Hotel. Two very ugly sisters made for each other.





            Now, over to Simon Jenkins writing on the subject of London's lost and imperilled views:


            https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Si...tions&start=20
            shb

            Don't you like this one? I don't have a problem with that - the obvious building which seems to be the main subject of this image.

            It has similarities with some US buildings, such as in Atlanta, or even New York, though it's much smaller.

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            • gradus
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              • Nov 2010
              • 5607

              #36
              Henry George had an idea that might help relieve us of grotesquely over-scaled domineering buildings by levying tax on the use of land but that was a very radical idea, with far more profound implications. Perhaps we should take comfort from the inevitably short life of most of these structures and challenge our young and aspirant architects to devise better models for future city development.

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              • mercia
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                • Nov 2010
                • 8920

                #37
                off-topic (sorry) but what do we think of the idea of the Crystal Palace being rebuilt ?

                The £500million new build is set to be of 'the same size and scale' as the original on Penge Common, in south-east London.

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37671

                  #38
                  Originally posted by mercia View Post
                  off-topic (sorry) but what do we think of the idea of the Crystal Palace being rebuilt ?

                  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-unveiled.html
                  Speaking as a local resident, a smaller scale, lower-rise version of the original would be just great. Proposals were put forward by a consortium of local shops and businesses a few years ago, with a strong campaign, as an alternative to the defunct LDA proposals under Mayor Ken - which excluded a reconstructed Palace and instead advocated regimented lines of trees to represent the building , in what has long been effectively a nature reserve - both strongly opposed by the local Crystal palace Conservation Association: the main reason however being the insistence in both sets of plans on flats to be built at 2 or 3 points along the perimeter which would have set a national precedent re residential building in designated parks.



                  Thanks, mercia - I must have a closer looks at this link.
                  Last edited by Serial_Apologist; 13-10-13, 14:14. Reason: to deleted defunct links

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                  • salymap
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5969

                    #39
                    I think I remember walking with my parents in the old Crystal Palace. I was probably 3 or 4 years old - think it had a floor with big square tiles and trees grew inside.

                    I certainly remember seeing the fire from my Aunt's Shortlands home a year or two later.

                    A smaller Palace seems a good idea.

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                    • mercia
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 8920

                      #40
                      a further link S-A

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37671

                        #41
                        Originally posted by mercia View Post
                        Thanks again mercia.

                        (I take it the Crystal palace Community Park Stakeholders Group aren't extras employed for crowd scenes in Hammer Horror productions!)

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                        • amateur51

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                          I don't mind the look of One Hyde Park. I think it is quite striking.

                          And it is amazing that you manage to grind your politicial axe even when discussing architecture......
                          Isn't that just what you're doing?

                          There are times when it just pays to say nowt.

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                          • Mr Pee
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3285

                            #43
                            Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                            Isn't that just what you're doing?
                            No.

                            Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                            There are times when it just pays to say nowt.
                            Couldn't agree more.

                            Anyhoo, moving on, and getting the thread back on track , what's the verdict on this new development at Blackfriars?





                            I am fan of the Shard and think a lot of these new developments make the London skyline much more interesting. However, my first impression of this is that it just looks way too big in contrast to everything around it- not that it's too tall- the Shard has shown that height alone need not be the problem- but that bulge half way up just looks wierd.
                            Last edited by Mr Pee; 13-10-13, 16:49.
                            Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                            Mark Twain.

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