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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    I haven't been able to find a photo of the specific Shofar used in the Elder recording Alpie mentions - which is surprising, considering the attention given to it in reviews of the CD - but there is one of the composer Alvin Currar playing the instrument:



    (In the only performance of The Apostles I've ever taken part in, the Shofar was played by Crispian Steele-Perkins.)
    Elgar didn't want an actual shofar to be used, but a long straight instrument, as used in Elder's performance. It was an incredible moment.

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    • MrGongGong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      I haven't been able to find a photo of the specific Shofar used in the Elder recording Alpie mentions - which is surprising, considering the attention given to it in reviews of the CD - but there is one of the composer Alvin Currar playing the instrument:
      Sorry for the nerd alert

      I think it's Alvin Curran (of Musica Elettronica Viva fame)

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      • Pabmusic
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        • May 2011
        • 5537

        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        Elgar didn't want an actual shofar to be used, but a long straight instrument, as used in Elder's performance. It was an incredible moment.
        Quite so. He specifies a straight trumpet (post horn, as in galop) in the score, so there's no reason to use anything else. Ever.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          Sorry for the nerd alert
          I think it's Alvin Curran (of Musica Elettronica Viva fame)
          <doh> - of course it is! (I was thinking "Curran" as I typed, but my fingers had other ideas.) Duly corrected.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            Elgar didn't want an actual shofar to be used, but a long straight instrument, as used in Elder's performance. It was an incredible moment.
            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
            Quite so. He specifies a straight trumpet (post horn, as in galop) in the score, so there's no reason to use anything else. Ever.
            I didn't know that.
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Richard Tarleton

              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              I haven't been able to find a photo of the specific Shofar used in the Elder recording Alpie mentions - which is surprising, considering the attention given to it in reviews of the CD - but there is one of the composer Alvin Curran playing the instrument:

              My curiosity aroused as to what animal previously owned this horn - it seems it was a kudu. (see "choice of animal", down the page).

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              • Serial_Apologist
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                • Dec 2010
                • 37689

                Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                Shofar so good.
                Copycat!

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                • Richard Tarleton

                  More specifically, the lesser kudu, which used to be found on the Arabian peninsula.

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                  • Pabmusic
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                    • May 2011
                    • 5537

                    There's exchanges early here:



                    In which we all discuss the shofar.

                    I quote Elgar's correspondence about it, which shows that he knew from the off that a real ram's horn was not practical, and that what he actually had in mind was a post horn.

                    It's quite interesting how the myth has grown that Elgar used a ram's horn at the first performance - I suspect it's the sort of colourful idea that appeals nowadays. It's just a little odd that some conductors think this when they have the score - where Elgar includes a note saying it should be played on a straight trumpet.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      I didn't know that.
                      Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                      There's exchanges early here
                      Blimey! I did know that!
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Pabmusic
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                        • May 2011
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                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Blimey! I did know that!
                        I knew you did... :)

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                        • Richard Barrett
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                          • Jan 2016
                          • 6259

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                          • MrGongGong
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                            We know where you have been


                            The photographs of deceased and living composers  paired with brief, witty captions  challenge the notion of composers as untouchable geniuses  by humanizing them in seemingly mundane moments  of...


                            ?

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                            • Richard Barrett
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                              • Jan 2016
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                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              We know where you have been
                              Actually I just did a search on "takemitsu xenakis noodles" and there it magically was... that is a fun site of course, although I don't quite see how for example feeding a monkey (Henry Cowell) is doing "normal sh•t".

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                              • Nick Armstrong
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26536

                                FAKE NEWS ALERT (mea culpa)

                                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                                Maurice Ravel, minus his barque, sur l'océan...


                                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                                No, that would be JC!
                                This is neither the Messiah nor in fact Ravel

                                It is actually actor Thierry Costa playing Ravel in the 2001 documentary Ravel’s Brain.
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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