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  • Pabmusic
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    • May 2011
    • 5537

    Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
    Mr and Mrs Leroy Anderson
    Indeed!

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    • EdgeleyRob
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      • Nov 2010
      • 12180



      One to sleep on.
      I've no idea who the lady and gentleman bottom right are btw.

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      • Roslynmuse
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        • Jun 2011
        • 1239

        Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post


        One to sleep on.
        I've no idea who the lady and gentleman bottom right are btw.
        I wonder if bottom right is Elgar Howarth?

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        • Pabmusic
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          • May 2011
          • 5537

          Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post


          One to sleep on.
          I've no idea who the lady and gentleman bottom right are btw.
          Well, John Ogden is in the middle and Alexander Goehr bottom left. And I think (perhaps, just possibly) that's PMD. Don't think I can get any more.

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          • Pabmusic
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            • May 2011
            • 5537

            Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post
            I wonder if bottom right is Elgar Howarth?
            It would make sense, given the company.

            How about Harrison Birtwistle back left. It could be, couldn't it?

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            • EdgeleyRob
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12180

              Bottom left Goehr,top left Harrison Birtwistle,John Ogdon middle,Elgar Howarth behind JO and PMD to the right I think

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              • Roslynmuse
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                • Jun 2011
                • 1239

                Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                Bottom left Goehr,top left Harrison Birtwistle,John Ogdon middle,Elgar Howarth behind JO and PMD to the right I think
                I knew I'd seen the picture before - it's in the recent John Ogden biography. The other two are John Dow and Audrey Baker (Goehr's first wife). Not names I know! But Howarth looks more like the chap in the front than the one at the back (I think so, anyway!)

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post
                  I knew I'd seen the picture before - it's in the recent John Ogden biography. The other two are John Dow and Audrey Baker (Goehr's first wife). Not names I know! But Howarth looks more like the chap in the front than the one at the back (I think so, anyway!)
                  John Dow was the 'cellist of NMM - I've not seen any other photos of him, but the hairstyle and nose & jawline of the figure at the back looks more like Howarth. (Difficult to say for certain.)
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Pabmusic
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                    • May 2011
                    • 5537

                    Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                    Footage of George Butterworth
                    I assume Pabs has seen this before
                    Yes, I know this. The internet is wonderful; I had to wait many years to visit Cecil Sharp House (the EFDSS) to see the old Kinora films. Now you can download them on YouTube.

                    Here's the story. The Kinora process used 'flip cards' - you turned a handle and hundreds of cards flipped before your eyes, mimicking movement. The video I've linked to is actually 5 (I think) films made this way in 1912. Three of them feature GB. Also there are Maud and Helen Karpeles and Cecil Sharp. In the first GB film (the one you posted) he keeps going out of shot - not used to a camera (a static one as well). In the one with four dancers, GB and Cecil Sharp bump into each other, which is a lovely moment with much laughter. And in the last (incomplete) film, GB gets really athletic.

                    I posted this on YouTube (the only thing I've ever attempted). The music is completely inauthentic, of course, since there was no way to synchronise sound in 1912. However, they're all old recordings of nice music. The music that accompanied Lumps of Plum Pudding is actually The Queen's Jig, arranged and conducted by Imogen Holst in 1933. Even so, you'll notice that one or two commentators were very critical that the music was 'wrong' and unsynchronised! Protect me from the world of folk dancers. I have Asperger's, too, but...

                    Incidentally, one of the Karpeles sisters was really smitten with GB, but he didn't respond. He might have been gay, I suppose, but we have absolutely no record of a romantic interest, male or female. Ever.

                    Early (1912) Kinora images of four notable pioneers in the folk song and dance revival. They are Cecil Sharp, George Butterworth, and Maud and Helen Karpele...
                    Last edited by Pabmusic; 30-01-16, 06:08. Reason: Can't spell.

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                    • mercia
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 8920

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                      • mercia
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8920

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                        • Serial_Apologist
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37678

                          Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post


                          One to sleep on.
                          I've no idea who the lady and gentleman bottom right are btw.
                          The Manchester School around 1955 I would guess.

                          Top left Harrison Birtwistle (lets leave out Sirs); top right I don't know - Hugh Wood? middle row left: John Ogdon; middle right: P.M. Davies; front left: Sandy Goehr; centre: Susan Bradshaw; front right: Elgar Howarth?

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                          • Pabmusic
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                            • May 2011
                            • 5537

                            Originally posted by mercia View Post
                            Mercia, have you put your foot in it? No. 359 definitely has Rubbra at the piano (I don't know any of the others) but that got me thinking about this one. Isn't that Rubbra with Holst? Not sure about the women. None looks like Imogen.

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                            • Tony Halstead
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1717

                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              The Manchester School around 1955 I would guess.

                              Top left Harrison Birtwistle (lets leave out Sirs); top right I don't know - Hugh Wood? middle row left: John Ogdon; middle right: P.M. Davies; front left: Sandy Goehr; centre: Susan Bradshaw; front right: Elgar Howarth?
                              Elgar Howarth is definitely at the back on the right ( i.e. on Birtwistle's left).

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                              • mercia
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8920

                                Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                                Isn't that Rubbra with Holst?
                                the source says so - here wearing the same jacket I think

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