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  • Tony Halstead
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    • Nov 2010
    • 1717

    Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post


    Neglected Brits,composers left and right,conductor and academic in the middle
    Cyril Rootham on the right, not sure about the other two.

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    • Pabmusic
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      • May 2011
      • 5537

      Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post


      Neglected Brits,composers left and right,conductor and academic in the middle
      Surely Sir Hugh Allen in the middle (Director of the RCM). But I should know 'im on the left...

      Henry Walford Davies?

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      • EdgeleyRob
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12180

        Correct,Tony and Pabs

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        • Stanfordian
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          • Dec 2010
          • 9310

          Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
          Correct,Tony and Pabs
          All 3 Stanford pupils or part of his circle!

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          • EdgeleyRob
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12180

            Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
            All 3 Stanford pupils or part of his circle!

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            • Pabmusic
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              • May 2011
              • 5537

              Hugh Allen had been a friend of George Butterworth since GSKB started at Trinity, Oxford, in 1904. Allen was organist at New College, and GSKB soon became immersed in musical life, rather than studying Greats. He was a regular dinner-guest of Allen and his wife, while George began to take part in Allen’s choral concerts – the Bach B minor mass, for instance. (Eventually GSKB was one of the founder members of the Palestrina Society, mainly RCM musicians, who included RVW and Rebecca Clarke.) Allen conducted the first performance of the Two English Idylls on February 8th 1912 in a concert that included the first performance of Somervell’s Normandie, as well as Brandenburg 5, the Mozart Gm Symphony and the Brahms Haydn Variations. He also conducted the second performance of The Banks of Green Willow (the day after Boult had given the first in West Kirby (his first professional concert). Ten days after the premiere of the Shropshire Lad Songs (nine of them) by J. Campbell McInnes accompanied by Butterworth (May 16th 1911) Allen hosted a private gathering where Adrian Boult sang four of the songs, with Allen accompanying.

              It might well have been Allen who introduced RVW to GSKB.

              After GSKB’s death, Allen said that he was the best of the young generation.

              Allen died in1946, aged 77, after he was knocked down by a motorcyclist in Oxford.

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              • Stanfordian
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                • Dec 2010
                • 9310

                Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                Hugh Allen had been a friend of George Butterworth since GSKB started at Trinity, Oxford, in 1904. Allen was organist at New College, and GSKB soon became immersed in musical life, rather than studying Greats. He was a regular dinner-guest of Allen and his wife, while George began to take part in Allen’s choral concerts – the Bach B minor mass, for instance. (Eventually GSKB was one of the founder members of the Palestrina Society, mainly RCM musicians, who included RVW and Rebecca Clarke.) Allen conducted the first performance of the Two English Idylls on February 8th 1912 in a concert that included the first performance of Somervell’s Normandie, as well as Brandenburg 5, the Mozart Gm Symphony and the Brahms Haydn Variations. He also conducted the second performance of The Banks of Green Willow (the day after Boult had given the first in West Kirby (his first professional concert). Ten days after the premiere of the Shropshire Lad Songs (nine of them) by J. Campbell McInnes accompanied by Butterworth (May 16th 1911) Allen hosted a private gathering where Adrian Boult sang four of the songs, with Allen accompanying.

                It might well have been Allen who introduced RVW to GSKB.

                After GSKB’s death, Allen said that he was the best of the young generation.

                Allen died in1946, aged 77, after he was knocked down by a motorcyclist in Oxford.
                Hiya Pabmusic,

                You can't get away from the great man as all the following were either taught by Stanford or were part of his circle at the RCM (or Cambridge): Vaughan Williams, Rebecca Clarke, Hugh Allen, George Butterworth, Arthur Somervell & Adrian Boult.

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                • Pabmusic
                  Full Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 5537

                  Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                  Hiya Pabmusic,

                  You can't get away from the great man as all the following were either taught by Stanford or were part of his circle at the RCM (or Cambridge): Vaughan Williams, Rebecca Clarke, Hugh Allen, George Butterworth, Arthur Somervell & Adrian Boult.
                  Stretching things a bit far to include Boult, whose musical training was at Leipzig!

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                  • EdgeleyRob
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12180

                    I'm convinced I can hear CVS's (and to a certain extent ,Parry's)influence is so much British music that followed.
                    I'm not capable of giving musical analysis to prove this but I've always felt it

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                    • EdgeleyRob
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12180



                      Music critic,left,and two neglected British composers

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                      • EdgeleyRob
                        Guest
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12180

                        Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                        Hugh Allen had been a friend of George Butterworth since GSKB started at Trinity, Oxford, in 1904. Allen was organist at New College, and GSKB soon became immersed in musical life, rather than studying Greats. He was a regular dinner-guest of Allen and his wife, while George began to take part in Allen’s choral concerts – the Bach B minor mass, for instance. (Eventually GSKB was one of the founder members of the Palestrina Society, mainly RCM musicians, who included RVW and Rebecca Clarke.) Allen conducted the first performance of the Two English Idylls on February 8th 1912 in a concert that included the first performance of Somervell’s Normandie, as well as Brandenburg 5, the Mozart Gm Symphony and the Brahms Haydn Variations. He also conducted the second performance of The Banks of Green Willow (the day after Boult had given the first in West Kirby (his first professional concert). Ten days after the premiere of the Shropshire Lad Songs (nine of them) by J. Campbell McInnes accompanied by Butterworth (May 16th 1911) Allen hosted a private gathering where Adrian Boult sang four of the songs, with Allen accompanying.

                        It might well have been Allen who introduced RVW to GSKB.

                        After GSKB’s death, Allen said that he was the best of the young generation.

                        Allen died in1946, aged 77, after he was knocked down by a motorcyclist in Oxford.
                        Thanks pabs

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                        • Pabmusic
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                          • May 2011
                          • 5537

                          Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post


                          Music critic,left,and two neglected British composers
                          Very sure about the critic: Hans Keller. As for the others ...

                          Rawsthorne On the right?

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                          • EdgeleyRob
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12180

                            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                            Very sure about the critic: Hans Keller. As for the others ...

                            Rawsthorne On the right?
                            Correct,the chap in the middle wrote a violin concerto in memory of all the Holocaust victims

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                            • ahinton
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 16122

                              Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                              Correct,the chap in the middle wrote a violin concerto in memory of all the Holocaust victims
                              I must admit that I'd not immediately have recognised Frankel from that photo.

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                              • EdgeleyRob
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12180

                                Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                                I must admit that I'd not immediately have recognised Frankel from that photo.
                                That's the fella

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