Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte
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The Welsh name Gwilym is a version of William [homophones?] and both likely come from Guillaume, Norman French [I'm sure FF will correct me if I am mistaken]. So firing at THAT Will, the Conqueror, would have been useful down in Sussex - had you been a Sais of course!! The Welsh never had much time for the Normans, didn't even give them a name, the English were always the "Saeson" or Saxons. Even the Scots called them Sassenachs. -
The Ferrier family originally came from Pembrokeshire in South West Wales..Bof! Ferrier is pure French, direct from Latin.Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
Probably correct, certainly Gwilym. But the original seems to have been Germanic Wilhelm. But, just guessing, I'd think William also came from the French form rather than the Germanic. Though, anyway, the Normans weren't really French - they were Scandinavians.The Welsh name Gwilym is a version of William [homophones?] and both likely come from Guillaume, Norman French [I'm sure FF will correct me if I am mistaken].It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Well there you go then, b****y Normans again!! Marcher Lords the lot of them, came around the easy way through Glamorgan on their way to Ireland. Rough lot, no wonder William the C sent them to deal with the Celts, got the troublemakers out of his way after Hastings. Ferrier a possible corruption of Farrier? Horses? Ferrier sounds Latin, something to do with Iron? - hence Smith and then to horses' shoes.Originally posted by french frank View Post
I could see that Wilhelm would sneak in via the Franks and be passed via the language to the Normans.Probably correct, certainly Gwilym. But the original seems to have been Germanic Wilhelm. But, just guessing, I'd think William also came from the French form rather than the Germanic. Though, anyway, the Normans weren't really French - they were Scandinavians.
Anyway, I don't care what you call them, foreigners. Snuck under inadequate immigration laws. Anyone carrying a Sword and a Firebrand and riding a Destrier was let in without question. The Sussex revenue never bothered looking for the contraband Armagnac.Comment
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Yes. Ferrarius - farrier (from ferrier - vowel alteration as in Derby, Berkeley, clerk, je suppose).Originally posted by Gordon View PostIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Timed right, citizens of Todmorden could claim thisOriginally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
But before you get too carried away, I'm from Lancashire too, though in traitorous sort of way, I live in Yorkshire.
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Well, not quite, Todmorden has been in Yorkshire since 1888, but the Post Office thought otherwise.Originally posted by amateur51 View PostTimed right, citizens of Todmorden could claim this
Before that date, the town was split between the two counties.Comment
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Well, I have the best of four or five different ancestral links!
Don’t cry for me
I go where music was born
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... I think you will find that most of us are descended from Adam...Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View PostWell, I have the best of four or five different ancestral links!
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Does that by chance include (for you, at least), Dr Jesse Norman, MP for Hereford and South Herefordshire, i.e. part of the so-called "Marches"? He's not been palmed off into the House of Lords yet, or so I understand...Originally posted by Gordon View PostComment
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But Adam who? Smith? Harasiewicz? Ant? Faith (aka Terence "Terry" Nelhams-Wright)?...Originally posted by vinteuil View Post... I think you will find that most of us are descended from Adam...Comment
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Thank you for clarifying this, if indeed you have done so...Originally posted by Beef Oven! View PostComment
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