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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #61
    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    Architecture lovers might be interested to know that this is an award winning building.
    Second best new building in Camden, 1970.
    For some reason, I find that "award" hilarious. It's like a Ricky Gervaisesque character, stuck in an office on an industrial estate outside Hull, pointing to a framed and faded certificate and telling everyone; "That's me, see - Second Best New Building in Camden, 1970!"
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25232

      #62
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      For some reason, I find that "award" hilarious. It's like a Ricky Gervaisesque character, stuck in an office on an industrial estate outside Hull, pointing to a framed and faded certificate and telling everyone; "That's me, see - Second Best New Building in Camden, 1970!"
      well quite.

      On my walk yesterday I didn't spot the third best building in Camden from 1970.
      But I am on the lookout for it.
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #63
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37861

          #64
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          For some reason, I find that "award" hilarious. It's like a Ricky Gervaisesque character, stuck in an office on an industrial estate outside Hull, pointing to a framed and faded certificate and telling everyone; "That's me, see - Second Best New Building in Camden, 1970!"
          Or that 1970s Deptford councillor on last week's "The Secret Life of our Streets" wrigglingly justifying turfing working class people out of Victorian homes previously passed as sanitary in the interests of developers.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #65
            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
            Or that 1970s Deptford councillor on last week's "The Secret Life of our Streets" wrigglingly justifying turfing working class people out of Victorian homes previously passed as sanitary in the interests of developers.
            Oh, I didn't find that "hilarious" at all!

            (Especially when they told us about the street that had been "properly" defined as a slum, but which somehow got omitted from the bulldozers' lists, now selling for £750,000 each house!)
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12959

              #66
              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
              given the state of the Built environment in some of our cities, it isn't that often that I am genuinely appalled by a building.
              but this one really is a corker.


              ... I think the building on the left is rather fine: I think the proportions are graceful; I like the colour; the texture is interesting. The building on the right is a mess - fiddly detailing; an unfortunate heavy-lidded look to what I suppose are the lintels; nasty horizontal window shapes.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30520

                #67
                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                I like the colour
                I wasn't so keen on the colour; otherwise …
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • teamsaint
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25232

                  #68
                  The problem with it that I had seeing it in context, is two fold really.
                  First, in a street where building are configured in the usual way with windows facing out onto the street, this windowless elevation looks badly out of context.
                  Second,as mentioned above, the proportions and relief offered by the concrete panelling are made invisible from some angles,including the important area of immediate approach from the same side of the streets. What actually appears to a person approaching from that side, which most people probably will, is a monolithic slab of dark grey concrete, where the effect of the virtues that Vinny highlights are completely lost.
                  Last edited by teamsaint; 01-05-15, 16:13.
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                  • vinteuil
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12959

                    #69
                    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                    What actually appears to a person approaching from that side, which most people probably will, is a monolithic slab of dark grey concrete...
                    ... actually a monolithic slab of dark grey concrete sounds rather imposing, a sort of Camden ka'aba *.

                    Clearly I shall have to make a pilgrimage - which street is it in?

                    * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25232

                      #70
                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                      ... actually a monolithic slab of dark grey concrete sounds rather imposing, a sort of Camden ka'aba *.

                      Clearly I shall have to make a pilgrimage - which street is it in?

                      * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba
                      Its in gordon street, northern end, eastern side.It is (part of) the Christopher Ingold Building.

                      It certainly is imposing.
                      Plenty to look at round there.
                      Not far to the British Library,which has features of interest, and from where a view of the roof of St Pancras looks...er.. interestingly contrasted..Also, one can take time out to imagine, or recollect,the Euston arch.

                      Nice trip out for a bank holiday, to the Mecca of Brutalism .
                      Last edited by teamsaint; 01-05-15, 17:34.
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

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                      • teamsaint
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25232

                        #71
                        an un- iconic building about to be demolished ( probably)is the WH Smith head office in Swindon.

                        Picking up on Ian Thumwood's point on the Zaha Hadid thread, this building is apparently past its useful life, despite being built in the 1980's, I think.

                        The office complex part ( as opposed to the functional looking distribution buildings), is by no means the least attractive office building I visit, and it seems to be pretty user friendly. But costs of maintenance and upgrade apparently outweigh those of relocating and new build.

                        raises a few questions.

                        Last edited by teamsaint; 10-04-16, 10:30.
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                        • Dave2002
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 18049

                          #72
                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          ... I think the building on the left is rather fine: I think the proportions are graceful; I like the colour; the texture is interesting. The building on the right is a mess - fiddly detailing; an unfortunate heavy-lidded look to what I suppose are the lintels; nasty horizontal window shapes.
                          Maybe, but what genius decided that any windows should be on the side of the building directly facing a not too distant wall. Give me strength!

                          Not supposed to be a nuclear bunker, is it? Erm, come to think of it, windows and above ground siting wouldn't work for that!

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                          • Dave2002
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 18049

                            #73
                            The interior of the new Camacha church on Madeira, is quite good - https://www.flickr.com/photos/sicco/...-p3R6fx-bwhGWD

                            The exterior is - well - maybe not quite so good - https://www.flickr.com/photos/sicco/...-2yWb7M-7JpxRC

                            I have some photos of the interior myself, which I may manage to get put up.

                            Camacha is, reportedly, the first Portugese place to have had a football game, and the bell in the building opposite the car park was actually sent from the church in Woolton on the (then) outskirts of Liverpool in the nineteenth century.

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25232

                              #74
                              Those interested in The Cardross seminary might like to add this to their Xmas list.

                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • teamsaint
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25232

                                #75
                                Interesting short film here

                                about the plans for Kilmahew/ St Peters Cardross.

                                Would really love to visit .
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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