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  • MrGongGong
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    "Iconic" building saved

    An arts charity is given £565,000 to help save a derelict building in Argyll which is considered by some as a masterpiece of modernist architecture.


    I know it's an overused word
    but this is great news after Preston Bus station
    so how about listing the "old" Birmingham Library then
  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30573

    #2
    It's a low-level version of the 'iconic' 1960s Robinson Building (1 Redcliffe Street) in Bristol. Still looking good:



    Terrible eyesore when it was first built
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      #3
      I think you are looking at the wrong one


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      • ardcarp
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 11102

        #4
        Yes, but doesn't reinforced concrete look horrible after a decade or so? Are we meant to view the staining as a sort of heritage patina?`

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30573

          #5
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          I think you are looking at the wrong one
          I clicked on your link? You don't mean St Peter's Seminary?
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • MrGongGong
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            #6
            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            I clicked on your link? You don't mean St Peter's Seminary?
            I do

            What is interesting after visiting the chapel at Ronchamp



            Is that in the UK we associate concrete with car parks and poorly built civic buildings
            whereas concrete can be a wonderful material, I love the way that the Hayward Gallery and QEH have traces of their shuttering construction.

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30573

              #7
              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
              What is interesting after visiting the chapel at Ronchamp [...]
              Is that in the UK we associate concrete with car parks and poorly built civic buildings
              whereas concrete can be a wonderful material, I love the way that the Hayward Gallery and QEH have traces of their shuttering construction.
              I am sorry. Deeply sorry. Humbly sorry. But I cannot love Clifton Cathedral, the Concrete Society's Winner of Winners in, I think, 2007.

              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25236

                #8
                Thanks very much for highlighting this Gongers.
                What a sight it must have been in in its heydey.

                Seems to me that it would be great to have it in everyday use for some public purpose, but at least progress seems to be being made.
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • eighthobstruction
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6454

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                  I do

                  What is interesting after visiting the chapel at Ronchamp



                  Is that in the UK we associate concrete with car parks and poorly built civic buildings
                  whereas concrete can be a wonderful material, I love the way that the Hayward Gallery and QEH have traces of their shuttering construction.
                  ....yes GG ....an incredibly unpredictable material....some complete and utter monstrosities....trouble with it is in many cases they have no idea what it will probably look like until it is built....with rare exception (Preston Bus Station not being one of them)....the quicker they are all pulled down the better....

                  ....the Ronchamp chapel is quite brilliant (painted white I believe).... anyway thankyou for your fascinating insights
                  bong ching

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                  • MrGongGong
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    #10
                    Ronchamp has a similar texture and range of colours as many UK car parks



                    the problem with this architecture is that we fail to see the buildings that are brilliant
                    The Barbican , for example, is a wonderful place to live (if you could afford it these days )
                    at least the time when some folks were serious about pulling down the QEH has now passed

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25236

                      #11
                      I don't know what the problem with this architecture is.
                      But i do think that somewhere along the line, people with power are scared of those with ideas, and make sure that we all have to settle for the ordinary, the debased, the mundane.
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37907

                        #12
                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        I am sorry. Deeply sorry. Humbly sorry. But I cannot love Clifton Cathedral, the Concrete Society's Winner of Winners in, I think, 2007.

                        Agree about the exterior, ff, but the inside is rather good imo from memory. Many years ago I heard a brilliant rendition of Messiaen's Messe de la Pentecote on the excellent organ there.

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                        • teamsaint
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25236

                          #13
                          Short film here about St Peters.

                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • Flosshilde
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7988

                            #14
                            Good news up to a point, but 7.5 million is still needed to 'save' it. It is a fabulous building. There was an exhibition in Glasgow a few years ago at The Lighthouse of the work of the practice (Gillespie, Kidd and Coia) responsible for it, which included a film of the Seminary and some splendid models. It's worth looking at the exhibition website, which includes information on the churches the practice built for the Catholic diocese of Glasgow.

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                            • David-G
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 1216

                              #15
                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              It's a low-level version of the 'iconic' 1960s Robinson Building (1 Redcliffe Street) in Bristol. Still looking good:



                              Terrible eyesore when it was first built
                              If you mean the white square building then on the basis of this picture it is still an eyesore now.

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