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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20564

    Castles and abbeys

    Is it part of being British that makes so many people flock to see ruined castles and abbeys? I was brought up on visits to Caernarfon, Harlech and Peverill Castles, all of which were in different states of dillapidation. They were frozen in time, frozen in a particular era in history. When I lived in Scarborough, it was interesting to see the renovations taking place at the castle on the headland. But they were not restoring it to its original grandeur - just making sure it was in the same state as it had been a few years earlier.

    Castles that are intact are kept that way - e.g. Lindisfarne. But if someone wanted to rebuild a ruined castle, there would probably be an outcry: "save our ruins". To me this doesn't make sense.

    But then, I've never been a HIPPster.
  • mangerton
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3346

    #2
    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post

    Castles that are intact are kept that way - e.g. Lindisfarne. But if someone wanted to rebuild a ruined castle, there would probably be an outcry: "save our ruins". To me this doesn't make sense.

    But then, I've never been a HIPPster.
    Yeah but.... If the call went out to rebuild a ruined castle, they'd probably stick a monstrosity like the gherkin on top of the remains.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20564

      #3
      You know that isn't true. .

      But I rathernlike the Gherkin. It has a pleasing shape, unlike the other modern tall buildings in London.

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      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        #4
        Anyone watch last Sunday's Countryfile programme, where they showed this castle in Kent? Looks beautiful and up for sale for £2million!
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        • mercia
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          • Nov 2010
          • 8920

          #5
          I don't know what state Lindisfarne was in when Lutyens found it. wikipedia says it was "much altered" by him. I suppose that might just mean made habitable.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20564

            #6
            Originally posted by mercia View Post
            I don't know what state Lindisfarne was in when Lutyens found it. wikipedia says it was "much altered" by him. I suppose that might just mean made habitable.
            Caernarfon Castle was never completed. I would very much like to see it finished.

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            • Petrushka
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12163

              #7
              Two castles of interest near here are Chartley and Tutbury. Both ruins, it is true, but both built on a truly commanding position. Tutbury, in particular, has a colourful history (Mary, Queen of Scots was imprisoned there for a while) as has the village itself. I see the castle every day from the railway line.

              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • gurnemanz
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                • Nov 2010
                • 7357

                #8
                We went to Orford Castle recently. It is not extensive but is well preserved and has a fascinating history - guide book is worth getting. Great view of the Suffolk coast from the roof. + lovely parish church close by with Britten associations and a ruined Norman chancel. Also excellent reasonably priced fish restaurant and fish smokery.

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                • mangerton
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3346

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  You know that isn't true. .

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                  • mercia
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8920

                    #10
                    I'm not quite sure what we're saying

                    As I understand it Lutyens repaired/renovated/restored Lindisfarne Castle to make it a habitable (holiday ?) home for a wealthy businessman

                    What would be the purpose of restoring, let's say, Tintern Abbey, to its original state at enormous cost ? Is there a sudden need for a working Abbey in that part (or any part) of the country ? or would a restored Tintern Abbey be put to some other use, say, a rather grand Tesco's ?
                    Last edited by mercia; 05-11-13, 07:58.

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                    • Sir Velo
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                      • Oct 2012
                      • 3217

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      Castles that are intact are kept that way - e.g. Lindisfarne. But if someone wanted to rebuild a ruined castle, there would probably be an outcry: "save our ruins". To me this doesn't make sense.
                      The point is: it would be a fake.

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                      • Hornspieler
                        Late Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1847

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                        The point is: it would be a fake.
                        Corfe Castle, Dorset


                        Shall I get my paints out and finish restoring it?

                        HS

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                        • Historian
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                          • Aug 2012
                          • 632

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          Castles that are intact are kept that way - e.g. Lindisfarne. But if someone wanted to rebuild a ruined castle, there would probably be an outcry: "save our ruins". To me this doesn't make sense.
                          But then, I've never been a HIPPster.
                          Sometimes they give an award to a rebuilt castle, as shown by the recent winner of the Stirling Prize.

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                          • decantor
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mercia View Post
                            .....or would a restored Tintern Abbey be put to some other use, say, a rather grand Tesco's ?
                            Nothing new under the sun ---

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #15
                              "Tintern Abbey"? Is that Ms Clancy doing an apprenticeship in Yorkshire?
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