8 composers you can live without

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  • DublinJimbo
    Full Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1222

    Bellini
    Donizetti
    Mozart
    Rachmaninov
    Paganini
    Delius
    Glazunov
    Satie

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    • salymap
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 5969

      The two threads remind me of an old song:

      Accentuate the positive

      Eliminate the negative
      Last edited by salymap; 21-10-13, 05:09.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        Probably Bruckner's greatest earworm! How it came to my attention was by being raised in an interval talk during a broadcast from one of Luciano Berio's UK visits, in the early 1990s iirc. The talk considered the Italian avant-gardist's turn to orchestrating some of Mahler's early songs; I seem to remember this tune emerging as one from the Wunderhorn cycle, though my memory could be playing me tricks. I may have it on a cassette.
        Berio had "form" with the Mahler Scherzo itself - looking through the score to find bar refs, I couldn't help "hearing" the Swingle Singers! (Talk about "earworms"!)
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20586

          Well, I go away for the weekend, and arrive back to find the return of the Negative Thread. .

          But



          I do like Suffolkcoastal's list.

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          • Sir Velo
            Full Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 3306

            Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
            Flabbergasted that no one has mentioned Queldryk so far.

            Everyone's favourite omphaloskeptic and self-styled 'philosophe du jour', Alain Lobotomy, has beaten us to this lark. In this month's Gramophone he states witheringly:

            'Occasionally I feel I must stretch my horizons and have a go at Mozart, but find him too jolly, or Beethoven, but find him too emotional, or Schubert, but find him too limp.'



            Where to start with critique as profound as this?
            Followers of de Bottom may be surprised to hear this bit of unwonted humility from the great man on his Twitter feed: "The disgust you feel when you reread something you've written a few days ago: that's how people experience you in real time." Obviously, referring to this article.

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26628

              Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
              Followers of de Bottom may be surprised to hear this bit of unwonted humility from the great man on his Twitter feed: "The disgust you feel when you reread something you've written a few days ago: that's how people experience you in real time." Obviously, referring to this article.
              Yes I saw that "tweet" from the Bottom but you were quicker than I at finding this thread to which it seemed very relevant
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Thropplenoggin
                Full Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 1587

                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                Yes I saw that "tweet" from the Bottom but you were quicker than I at finding this thread to which it seemed very relevant
                I was minded of Alain Lobotomy whilst reading The Big Sleep earlier today:

                'Hair like steel wool grew far back on his head and gave him a great deal of domed forehead that might at a careless glance have seemed a dwelling place for brains.'
                It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 38181

                  Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                  I was minded of Alain Lobotomy whilst reading The Big Sleep earlier today:

                  'Hair like steel wool grew far back on his head and gave him a great deal of domed forehead that might at a careless glance have seemed a dwelling place for brains.'
                  Whereas for me the two words that come most readily to mind are Swiss Cottage, for some silly reason

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                  • Sir Velo
                    Full Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3306

                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                    Vaughan Williams..
                    Respighi
                    One can never predict another's musical enthusiasms but I would have thought the Tudor polyphony influences on VW and the Baroque on Respighi would have endeared each of these composers to you Vints. A case of too much ersatz; not enough echt perhaps?
                    Last edited by Sir Velo; 27-10-13, 07:51.

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                    • vinteuil
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 13194

                      Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                      One can never predict another's musical enthusiasms but I would have thought the Tudor polyphony influences on VW and the Baroque on Respighi would have endeared each of these composers to you Vints. A case of too much ersatz; not enough echt perhaps?
                      ... ersatz not echt : nicely put.

                      Tallis is better when not messed around with by Vaughan Williams, Couperin when not messed around with by Respighi. In my opinion.

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                      • ahinton
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16123

                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        ... ersatz not echt : nicely put.

                        Tallis is better when not messed around with by Vaughan Williams, Couperin when not messed around with by Respighi. In my opinion.
                        And is Chopin "better" when not "messed around with" by Godowsky or Bach by Liszt and Busoni (or sometimes both)?

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                          And is Chopin "better" when not "messed around with" by Godowsky or Bach by Liszt and Busoni (or sometimes both)?
                          Yes.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • teamsaint
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 25294

                            and Mozart by Tchaikovsky...and.....
                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • Pabmusic
                              Full Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 5537

                              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                              and Mozart by Tchaikovsky...and.....
                              Tchaikovsky by Stravinsky??

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26628

                                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                                and Mozart by Tchaikovsky...and.....
                                Oh c'mon, it's the best thing PT wrote....


                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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