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  • remdataram
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    • Mar 2011
    • 154

    #91
    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    ... even Bruckner's Ninth Symphony, where (for me at any rate) he finally came into his own.
    Even Bruckner's Ninth I'm afraid. You have prompted me to give it a few further outings, along with the 4th perhaps. I'm certain I'm missing something, I must be the only Mahler lover who can't get on with Bruckner.

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    • Suffolkcoastal
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3299

      #92
      I'm the opposite I'm a great Bruckner admirer, but simply cannot get on with Mahler.

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      • Thropplenoggin
        Full Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 1587

        #93
        Bauer
        Byrd
        Wolf
        Howells
        Puts
        Orff
        Bull
        Schütt
        It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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        • Mary Chambers
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1963

          #94
          I can live so easily without Dvorak that I forgot entirely to put him on my list. Too late now.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #95
            Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
            Puts Orff Bull Schütt
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Petrushka
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12436

              #96
              Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
              Puts
              Orff
              Bull
              Schütt
              Please say this wasn't deliberate.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • Thropplenoggin
                Full Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 1587

                #97
                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                Please say this wasn't deliberate.
                The product of insomnia (thanks, cheap Burgundy (some gift!)) No one spotted 'Bauer Byrd' or 'Wolf Howells'.
                It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                • Petrushka
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12436

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                  'Wolf Howells'.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                    No one spotted 'Bauer Byrd' or 'Wolf Howells'.
                    No - straight to the smut; that's me.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • scottycelt

                      Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                      I'm the opposite I'm a great Bruckner admirer, but simply cannot get on with Mahler.
                      Me too .. I'm not just a Bruckner admirer but a complete and utter fanatic. Mahler does very little for me, I'm afraid.

                      I also know one or two rabid Mahlerians who just don't 'get' Bruckner.

                      The only connection between the two that I can see is that they knew and liked each other and the young M. allegedly attended one of B.'s music lectures (oh to have been a fly on that lecture-room wall!!), though the influence of Bruckner seems obvious to me in Mahler 9 which, therefore unsurprisingly, is the one Mahler symphony that really grips my attention.

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                      • Demetrius
                        Full Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 276

                        Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                        An interesting phenomenon is apparent. Not a single poster seems to share my views on:

                        Sterndale Bennett
                        Holbrooke
                        Reinecke
                        Rubinstein
                        Macdowell
                        Fibich
                        Draeseke
                        Mackenzie

                        Does this mean that I'm the only person to have listened to their music in the last x years? Or that their music is so banal that it doesn't even merit consideration? Or that theirs is music of real worth and I'm just not getting it?
                        Like what I heard of Sterndale Bennett, like Draeseke; Fibich 2nd Symphony bored me to death.

                        8 Composers I don't like/Don't feel like trying again?
                        Prokoviev (the living one with the turntables)
                        Fibich (thanks for reminding me)
                        Wagner
                        Rott
                        the composer of that "Froms" thingy from a few last nights before that sounded roughly like a disorganised trainstation

                        ...
                        Glass
                        ...

                        two more ... will think about it and add them later.

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                        • Suffolkcoastal
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3299

                          Originally posted by Demetrius View Post
                          Like what I heard of Sterndale Bennett, like Draeseke; Fibich 2nd Symphony bored me to death.

                          8 Composers I don't like/Don't feel like trying again?
                          Prokoviev (the living one with the turntables)
                          Fibich (thanks for reminding me)
                          Wagner
                          Rott
                          the composer of that "Froms" thingy from a few last nights before that sounded roughly like a disorganised trainstation

                          ...
                          Glass
                          ...

                          two more ... will think about it and add them later.
                          I've got music by all of them in my collection, I actually find Draeseke quite a good composer and Fibich's 3rd Symphony isn't bad. MacDowell's music is pleasant if nothing special the same with Reinecke though he was quite conservative. Rubinstein's later work are much better than his overblown post Mendelssohnian earlier ones. Sterndale Bennett is again pleasant, Cipriani Potter though was a much finer composer and is for my money the best British composer by far of the the first half of the 19th century. As for Mackenzie, definitely inferior to Parry and Stanford and lacks a distinct personality but certainly not awful. Would probably agree about Holbrooke not found much of interest in his music so far.

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                          • Roehre

                            Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
                            ...

                            The only connection between the two that I can see is that they knew and liked each other and the young M. allegedly attended one of B.'s music lectures (oh to have been a fly on that lecture-room wall!!), though the influence of Bruckner seems obvious to me in Mahler 9 which, therefore unsurprisingly, is the one Mahler symphony that really grips my attention.
                            There are (at least) two other musical ones:
                            The Symphonisches Präludium which is attributed to Mahler, according to the latest research, might be a piece by Bruckner.
                            The trio of the scherzo in Bruckner's Romantic symphony (1878 and later versions) is revisited in Mahler's Resurrection.

                            The very first time Mahler's name appeared in print was as the arranger of the piano-reduction of Bruckner's Third symphony, btw.

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                            • Roehre

                              Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
                              I'm the opposite I'm a great Bruckner admirer, but simply cannot get on with Mahler.
                              I can get on with both of them, a bit more Mahler than Bruckner perhaps, but among my friends there is quite a number either/ors.

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                              • teamsaint
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25294

                                Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                                I can get on with both of them, a bit more Mahler than Bruckner perhaps, but among my friends there is quite a number either/ors.
                                You must go to a classy pub, Roehre !
                                Neither are really popular topics of conversation with my mates.
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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