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  • DracoM
    Host
    • Mar 2007
    • 12921

    Obligatory Americans on BBC Radio

    On the Saturday night R4 Critics prog - 7.15 - 8 p.m - the first three items were about American cultural happenings. Almost every Monday. Andrew Marr has an obligatory American on Start the Week, Woman's Hour rakes them in by the shoals, Midweek usually has one a week, Night Waves regularly does. We have a Classic Serial 'Showboat' starting on Sunday next [ that's a 'classic'? Really?]. One of the current serialised books of the week is by yet another American, we have 'Americana' at 7.15p.m. on a Sunday evening on R4.

    Why? Are they cheaper than British academics? Are they more prestigious? Are they au courant with Eurpoean value systems? What have I missed here?

    So why are Americans so regularly drawn in to pontiifcate on UK / European situations? After Bush and Cheney made poodles out of us, after Iraq, Afghanistan, Lehmann Bros / Goldman Sachs and the implosion of the world banking system, I'm not sure I'm ready to be lectured by any Americans on many topics.

    Or is that just me?
  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 29932

    #2
    Originally posted by DracoM View Post
    Or is that just me?
    It may be, though - on a related point - one notes in the Trust's review on R4

    "Radio 4 should address audience concerns about the imbalance of its international coverage in favour of America compared with Europe and the rest of the world."

    I think a lot more academics have come over from the States to take up university posts here than there were, say, twenty years ago.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • kernelbogey
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 5665

      #3
      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
      .... So why are Americans so regularly drawn in to pontiifcate on UK / European situations? ....
      Is this post (thinly) disguised anti-Americanism?

      I think they have an interesting perspective. On the whole, those who are drawn in by the Beeb to comment are those who are au courant with European thinking. They remain, for the moment, the dominant economic (and therefore cultural) influence in the world. So why not invite them onto top programmes?

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      • DracoM
        Host
        • Mar 2007
        • 12921

        #4
        Absolutely not anti-American.

        Choice is exercised by programme editors, and more regularly than seems likely, American voices pop up in sometimes unlikely places, particularly when the topic under discussion is specifically 'British' or 'European', maybe even localised in one region of one city.

        Sorry, but the suspicion in me grows that as the BBC becomes more commercially driven and sees its programmes as likely to be purchased abroad and that the American market may be more lucrative than others, it can't hinder sales if the voices included are from America?

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        • Don Petter

          #5
          Originally posted by DracoM View Post
          So why are Americans so regularly drawn in to pontiifcate on UK / European situations?
          Essentially, …

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          • Cellini

            #6
            Well, DracoM may have a point. I'm sort of used to them because I aslo post regularly on an essentially American website. Sometimes they drive me mad, but many of them are fine. And of course there are many in America who are not Americans in as much that they came from elsewhere originally. So they can be all flavours.

            What I don't like is what most of us percieve as American culture, mostly seen in their films. But then I generally don't like African culture either. Of course I think their politics stink, but that's another matter, and in the end they may grow up, given enough time.

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            • Sydney Grew
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 754

              #7
              Originally posted by DracoM View Post
              On the Saturday night R4 Critics prog - 7.15 - 8 p.m - the first three items were about American cultural happenings. Almost every Monday. Andrew Marr has an obligatory American on Start the Week, Woman's Hour rakes them in by the shoals, Midweek usually has one a week, Night Waves regularly does. We have a Classic Serial 'Showboat' starting on Sunday next [ that's a 'classic'? Really?]. One of the current serialised books of the week is by yet another American, we have 'Americana' at 7.15p.m. on a Sunday evening on R4.

              Why? Are they cheaper than British academics? Are they more prestigious? Are they au courant with Eurpoean value systems? What have I missed here?

              So why are Americans so regularly drawn in to pontiifcate on UK / European situations? After Bush and Cheney made poodles out of us, after Iraq, Afghanistan, Lehmann Bros / Goldman Sachs and the implosion of the world banking system, I'm not sure I'm ready to be lectured by any Americans on many topics.

              Or is that just me?
              Thank you for your fine post Member DracoM! Its inspiring words show us that even in this late and savage era there is still hope for our down-trodden land.

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20565

                #8
                Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                After Bush and Cheney made poodles out of us, after Iraq, Afghanistan, Lehmann Bros / Goldman Sachs and the implosion of the world banking system, I'm not sure I'm ready to be lectured by any Americans on many topics.

                Or is that just me?
                While I deplore much of the Americanisation of our society, let us not blame Bush and Cheney what our Prime Minister did. Mr Blair could have kept us out of Iraq and Afghanistan, but he chose to take part in the invasions. TB was indeed a poodle. Indeed, I had the distinct impression that Bush considered him as less than a side-issue. But that was TB's choice.

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                • JimD
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 267

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post

                  Is this post (thinly) disguised anti-Americanism?
                  Probably. It is common to dislike those to whom one is in debt.

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                  • marthe

                    #10
                    Oh deah. This is very tiresome...

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                    • Purposebuilt

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                      Or is that just me?
                      I turn off or change channel if I hear an American contributor. Once you start to notice it becomes very annoying. So, I am turning more and more to Radio 3. It's an ill wind....

                      This blatant infiltration makes me very angry. So glad the subject is starting to crop up in discussions.

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                      • Dave2002
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 17981

                        #12
                        Not sure why this thread is here, but ....

                        Then on Radio 4 we have to have philosphers - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01ddxbf

                        It was an interesting enough programme, but I think sneaked in a hidden assumption that "the market" or "markets" are in some way neutral or fair, something which could be examined much more carefully.

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                        • maestro267
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 355

                          #13
                          What has this thread got to do with Performance?

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                          • Flosshilde
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7988

                            #14
                            Nothing, unless the OP has detected a bias towards Americans (the USA, specifically - I don't think that there have been many Canadians, or Mexicans. A few Venezualans when the Simon Bolivar orchestra are in town ) in performers. Most, if not all, of the evening concerts have been by British orchestras & ensembles. There is the Met Opera broadcasts, which have a fair few USA contributors.

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                            • Richard Tarleton

                              #15
                              Originally posted by marthe View Post
                              Oh deah. This is very tiresome...
                              Quite

                              Dave - I've seen a few of Michael Sandel's spots on TV - I think BBC4 but can't be certain - fascinating interrogative style of discourse with a live student audience. Outstanding TV by any standards. Whatever the intention of the OP a couple of contributions to this thread are particularly tiresome, one in particular. Also, in the collegiate spirit of the MB, not a bit friendly to the small handful of regular contributors from across the pond, I'd have thought.

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