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  • Ian Thumwood
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 4152

    Calum

    Always intrigued by your affection for Harry Redknapp as there are probably three clubs this evening whose fans would viciferously challenge your perception of his abilities. I think he did well at West Ham and acheived a quality of football at Portsmouth that hasn't been seen on the South coasr since the days of Lawrie Mac. However, it came as a huge price and the salaries / transfer fees being splashed around ultimatley brought Portsmouth to their knees. His spell at Sputhampton was not only controversial but demonstrated an inability to motivate or even be interested in a team he didn't really want to work for. He couldn't save Saints from the drop and he was allowed to walk out of St. Mary's before he could create any more halm. His ability in this league had been built upon gaining promotion for portsmouth yet at Southampton he showed little enthusiasm. Luckily for Redknapp, he quit Pompey before the club imploded and whilst treated initially as a saviour, his reputation amongst the fans plummeted once they understood the fiasco that had gone on behind the scenes.

    Spurs were quick to let him go last year (despite the fact that he was kept well away from any business transcations ) and his appearance at Loftus Road seems only to have prompted their relegation (I think his stats for games won was worse than Matk Hughes!) and they look on the way to ruin with the likes of Chris Samba on a huge wedge.

    I think it is time that the media's love affair with Redknapp stopped and journalists perhaps took a more critical view of his management ability and destructive influence on medium-sized clubs. It's curious that his dubious charisma seems to hoodhink impartial fans and whilst I think he is capable of achieving some good things (as was witnessed at Spurs and Portsmouth) it might be worthwhile considering whether his poor financial nous outweighs any ability he has as a coach.

    Cheers

    Ian

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    • EdgeleyRob
      Guest
      • Nov 2010
      • 12180

      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
      I think somebody may have to dep for ER on the roundup tonight. He may not be in the mood, though he is no doubt made of stern northern stuff.....

      Bad Luck ER....bring on 2013/14.
      In mourning.....the round up will follow......maybe tomorrow.

      with apologies to Auden...

      Blow the last whistle, make the last pass,
      Prevent the groundsman from inspecting the grass.
      Silence the cheers and quietly grieve
      Open the gates, let the faithful leave.

      Let newspaper hacks in this saddened town
      Scribble the news, we are down.
      Put black on the pages of papers we read
      Let match day policemen the funeral lead.

      We travelled North, and South, and East and West,
      We travelled afar, the lads played their best (debateable).
      At noon, at midnight, we talked, sang our song,
      We thought we’d be safe, we were wrong.

      The players are not wanted now, for sale, everyone
      Pack up the kit, put it all away son.
      Go away for the summer and sweep out your brain,
      For we’ll (maybe?) be back in August, to do it again.

      Danny Bergara,a genuine nice guy,Uruguayan but Stockport through and through,please don't turn in your grave,this shower of s##t aint worth it.



      non football people won't understand.

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      • Il Grande Inquisitor
        Full Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 961

        A 3-1 win for AFC Bournemouth over Carlisle, plus the inability of Doncaster and Brentford to claim 3 points, means promotion to the Championship for only the second time in our history. I still have vivid memories of the 1986-7 season when we went up as champions under 'Arry Redknapp (still adored/ revered in that particular nook of the south coast) and am disappointed not to be able to get to games these days.
        Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....

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        • EdgeleyRob
          Guest
          • Nov 2010
          • 12180

          Originally posted by Il Grande Inquisitor View Post
          A 3-1 win for AFC Bournemouth over Carlisle, plus the inability of Doncaster and Brentford to claim 3 points, means promotion to the Championship for only the second time in our history. I still have vivid memories of the 1986-7 season when we went up as champions under 'Arry Redknapp (still adored/ revered in that particular nook of the south coast) and am disappointed not to be able to get to games these days.
          Seem to remember them knocking manyoo out of the cup around that time,or maybe a bit earlier?

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          • Bullock in D

            Like Elgar, the Wolves seem totally lost in a world which has moved on and without any hope. He cried for the horses in WW1 whilst I do the same in the old gold and black.

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            • teamsaint
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 25195

              Well done to Bompey. Good times generally along the south coast....well mostly.
              Portsmouth have beaten the system again with a meaningless points deduction.
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • Il Grande Inquisitor
                Full Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 961

                Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                Seem to remember them knocking manyoo out of the cup around that time,or maybe a bit earlier?
                8th January 1984: Bournemouth 2 Man Utd 0

                http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/s...626795,00.html
                Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....

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                • gurnemanz
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7380

                  Originally posted by Il Grande Inquisitor View Post
                  8th January 1984: Bournemouth 2 Man Utd 0

                  http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/s...626795,00.html
                  The only time I saw Bournemouth the mighty Ted MacDougall was playing for them at Bootham Crescent versus York City in Div 3 in 1971. I'm afraid I can't remember very much about the match.

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                  • aeolium
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3992

                    Sorry about the Stockport County calamity, ER. It really does seem to be a never-ending story of frustration for their supporters. You're going to need that Howells (something appropriate about the name). Thanks for the news clipping about Bergara, btw.

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      Goodness, The Seagulls thrashed Blackpool 6-0! They currently 4th! My colleague is a Watford Town fan!
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • johncorrigan
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 10348

                        Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                        In mourning.....the round up will follow......maybe tomorrow.


                        ...and sorry to hear about all the bother at the game yesterday, Rob - there really are some idiots out there.

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                        • Ian Thumwood
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 4152

                          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                          Well done to Bompey. Good times generally along the south coast....well mostly.
                          Portsmouth have beaten the system again with a meaningless points deduction.
                          Teamsaint

                          I this Bournemouth have been brilliant especially if you consider how poorly they started the season. They do have a lot of money behind them unlike Portsmouth who, having now been take over by a supporter's trust, have been looked after by the FA as the club is, at last, being run for the benefit of the fans in a sensible fashion. Other teams may point out that clubs who have effectively been relegated have taken the hit with the points deduction in the following season and I can see their argument. However, I think it would have reflected poorly on the FA if they had deducted 10 points next just just as the supporter's trust were trying to get the club back on to an even keel.

                          I'm not a fan of points deductions and feel they hit the fans as opposed to the directors of the clubs. The situation should be to have more control of the stewardship of clubs to prevent poor financial mangement in future. Granted that Portsmouth might appear to have beaten the system but even as a Saints fan I can recognise that their fall down the leagues has also had as much to do with previous point deductions as it has for their playing performance. I'd have to say it through gritted teeth but Portsmouth is a big club and had it been managed correctly it should have eclipsed Southampton. Fortunately for us, Portsmouth have had nearly 50 years of being poorly run and I think they will struggle to attain south coast dominance in the future from the mighty team in red and white!

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                          • EdgeleyRob
                            Guest
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12180

                            Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                            ...and sorry to hear about all the bother at the game yesterday, Rob - there really are some idiots out there.
                            Indeed John,every club has some I suppose.
                            A minority I know but as if the day wasn't bad enough we didn't need that.
                            My son travelled down to the game,he was very shaken when he arrived home last night,he couldn't comprehend what he had witnessed.

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                            • Lancashire Lass
                              Full Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 118

                              Sorry you weren't quite able to claw your way to safety, Rob. Hopefully you can regroup next season and get back into the League in the next year or two.

                              Also sorry about your boy and others being upset -- it's sad that some supporters feel violence is acceptable, but passion is no less passion when it accepts defeat gracefully, and the vast majority of your fans are doing exactly that.

                              I know County have been through some very hard times as a club, never mind on the pitch, but as long as you can keep together as a community, there has to be a brighter future ahead. I cannot believe that the current structure of football can sustain itself for ever. Portsmouth is the latest "big" club to be sliding down the divisions, and at some point I think there will be an enforced (by wider financial circumstances) levelling-down/up of clubs. Where there's life, there's hope.

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                              • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 9173

                                seems to me this guy has a point or two about the timing of the Cup Final
                                According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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