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  • Dave2002
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 17964

    Trusting personalised media

    I am concerned about the rise of personalised media presentation of "facts" and news. More and more these days I find that when I read web pages some parts of the page relate to other pages I may have viewed recently, or even to emails. Advertising gurus may think this is a good thing, but now my concern is that I can no longer have even approximate certainty when I view a web page that others viewing the "same" page will see the same textual representation. Common discourse will become harder as each individual will see different texts, very possibly biasing the significance and meaning.

    At present I think the core text is being presented without modification, though in the future even this may not happen. Arguably ths presentation is still suficiently crude that readers can see through it, and attempt to filter out any presentation bias, though this can surely still cause problems.

    Those of us who still read standard non personalised printed material can still be reasonably sure that we are accessing well defined resources, but the rise of electronic dissemination seems to be making this harder.
  • Frances_iom
    Full Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 2411

    #2
    do you want the ref to 1984 - Orwell is becoming more and more relevant to today than ever tho he didn't envisage individualised manipulation of newspapers

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    • Resurrection Man

      #3
      There are a lot of good extensions that show just how much individual websites share your browsing data...which is how the personalised pages work. The Guardian is well up there with the worst for sharing data ! Equally there are many other extensions that let you block this from happening.

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      • MarkG
        Full Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 119

        #4
        There are some websites such as DuckDuckGo for instance that claim to allow you to search the net without tracking you or putting you in a 'filter bubble'.

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        • johnb
          Full Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 2903

          #5
          Most of the "retargeted advertising" depends on cookies that websites put onto your computer. The current version of Firefox has an option to "Tell sites that I do not want to be tracked", which I think is enabled by default. I don't know how long this has been part of Firefox but recently I've noticed that the targeted adverts have more or less stopped.

          Also, the Mozilla website has instructions on how to set up cookie control to minimise tracking.

          (Earlier this year there were reports that a future version of Firefox was going to block third party cookies by default, in an attempt to stop the "retargeted advertising". However, they encountered problems - so I'm not sure whether that is still planned.)

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          • Dave2002
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            • Dec 2010
            • 17964

            #6
            Almost all of this techno social stuff is a PITA. My orginal poInt was that if you frequent pages such as this http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art...vists+camp+out and then try to read an objective and hopefully well written artcle, the extra junk which gets loaded will bias your reading differently from those who like this sort of thing - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...austerity.html or online IKEA or Argos catalogues. You may find your opinions being reinforced by the extra links - mabe not - and discussion harder as everyone gets a different view.

            Most people probably won't bother to change their browser settings, or even think of so doing.

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            • Resurrection Man

              #7
              I thought that all that extra junk was ONLY found on the web pages of the Socialist Worker website

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              • Dave2002
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 17964

                #8
                Originally posted by Resurrection Man View Post
                I thought that all that extra junk was ONLY found on the web pages of the Socialist Worker website
                Don't know. I only went there once, to get the link.

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                • amateur51

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  Don't know. I only went there once, to get the link.
                  I'm sure that RM only clicks on it for the crossword

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                  • anotherbob
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                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1172

                    #10
                    Originally posted by johnb View Post
                    The current version of Firefox has an option to "Tell sites that I do not want to be tracked", which I think is enabled by default.
                    I don't think it is the default setting. However I shall use it in future. Thanks for the information.

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                    • Dave2002
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 17964

                      #11
                      Originally posted by anotherbob View Post
                      I don't think it is the default setting. However I shall use it in future. Thanks for the information.
                      Do other browsers have the same or similar options to turn off such unwanted behaviour? What about iOS browsers? It's a pain having to take positive action to avoid this kind of thing. I blame Google for this, though they may not be the only promoters of these "features".

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                      • johnb
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 2903

                        #12
                        I might be totally wrong (as I haven't researched the subject) but I suspect the targeted results displayed by Google and the "retargeted advertising" shown on websites one visits are two separate matters.

                        By the way, one can switch off Google's targeted results:

                        Click on the cog (top right when Googling)
                        Select "Web History"
                        Select "Disable customizations based on search activity"

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                        • Resurrection Man

                          #13
                          Dave2002, you might like to instal Collusion on your browser and take a peek at just how much sharing of your web journey there is.

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                          • Dave2002
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 17964

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Resurrection Man View Post
                            Dave2002, you might like to instal Collusion on your browser and take a peek at just how much sharing of your web journey there is.
                            That'll probably have me fleeing in horror, and swearing never to use the Internet ever again!

                            I may give Collusion a try, anyway.

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                            • eighthobstruction
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6401

                              #15
                              Interesting stuff all this you are writing about....
                              bong ching

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