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  • Pabmusic
    Full Member
    • May 2011
    • 5537

    Top brand disingenuousness, or keep digging that hole...

    Here's Russell Brand on Desert Island Discs explaining the 'prank' that he and Jonathan Ross played on Andrew Sachs, by leaving lewd messages on his answer machine. Apparently the fuss wasn't about his (and Ross's) behaviour - it was because the BBC has many enemies waiting to make capital of such things.

    As a result of the fuss, Brand and the controller of Radio 2 resigned and Ross was suspended from broadcasting for three months.

    On Desert Island Discs, Brand said:
    "Anything that damages something I love, I'm going to feel sorry for. And I'm sorry also because the story I tell myself, of myself, is not that I am a man who is rude to people who are in a position of vulnerability - but what's difficult, Kirsty, is there was obviously a pre-existing agenda in privately-owned media to destabilise, attack and diminish the BBC.

    He claimed the thousands of people who complained were motivated by an agenda against publicly-funded media:
    "Listen, Kirsty, after the show there were two complaints. After it was in the Daily Mail there were subsequently 42,000 complaints. I'm sure their offence was genuine - it was wrong, and I apologise for that - but how the information is presented is important. The thing I want to address here, the thing that 42,000 people were offended by is offensive. It is offensive if someone calls up an answerphone, does some swearing, hangs up.

    "But if, incrementally, that act is led to by a series of innuendos and in-jokes, then it is a different thing. It is still a thing that is wrong, but it's not the thing that they are offended by."

    Here's the story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23383451
  • amateur51

    #2
    What is Russell Brand driving at, i wonder with "there was obviously a pre-existing agenda in privately-owned media to destabilise, attack and diminish the BBC."?

    Not the fact that the programme in question was made by a private company owned by Jonathan Ross, surely

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    • Mr Pee
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3285

      #3
      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
      What is Russell Brand driving at, i wonder with "there was obviously a pre-existing agenda in privately-owned media to destabilise, attack and diminish the BBC."?

      Not the fact that the programme in question was made by a private company owned by Jonathan Ross, surely
      Come on Amateur, pin it on Murdoch. You know you want to.
      Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

      Mark Twain.

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      • Zucchini
        Guest
        • Nov 2010
        • 917

        #4
        Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
        "...a pre-existing agenda in privately-owned media to destabilise, attack and diminish the BBC."?
        It sounds like he's referring to this forum and the 'Friends of Radio 3' website.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30456

          #5
          I do wonder whether the BBC would be publicising the story if he'd been blaming [on a BBC programme] those higher up the BBC hierarchy for not having had more good sense than he did.

          And if I'd been an objective sub I'd have replaced 'said' and 'told' by 'claimed'.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30456

            #6
            Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
            It sounds like he's referring to this forum and the 'Friends of Radio 3' website.
            Never let it be said that we're against free speech ...
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • amateur51

              #7
              Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
              Come on Amateur, pin it on Murdoch. You know you want to.
              I know you want me to

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