The General Chat Room

[vinteuil]

... I can spend three hours in someone's company and if, after parting company with them, I have some reason to try and recall what they were wearing, 99 times out of a 100 I've no idea. Total non-recall.

But do not, from this, assume that others will not notice and recall what you were wearing.

A denim trouser suit, I think?

[french frank]

A denim trouser suit, I think?

Was that what I was wearing? I've never had a denim trouser suit but it could have been two odd bits of denim.

[ahinton]

Even when I was a boy in smart short-trousers

That would seem to tell all, really...

Mind you, that does not mean I approve of these silly first-name badges that service-staff are often obliged to wear. The Chairman of The John Lewis Partnership, no less, wanders around his shops with 'CHARLIE' emblazoned on a lapel.

I don't suppose that your approval or otherwise of his never knowingly unbadged status makes the slightest difference to him or indeed anyone else at John Lewis but, if he chooses to wear such a badge, would you not expect it to bear his own name rather than, say, "P. G. Tipps"?...

[ahinton]

Where did the idea come from that what you wear shows respect for other people? Listening to them carefully and responding thoughtfully to what they say, yes.

Good points both. I don't know the source of these particular Tippy ideas on the significance of sartoriality, but that's no surprise, perhaps, however Tippical of him they might be.

I presume I'm unique in the entire universe

I thought that everyone here already knew that...

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Where did the idea come from that what you wear shows respect for other people? Listening to them carefully and responding thoughtfully to what they say, yes.

I presume I'm unique in the entire universe but I can spend three hours in someone's company and if, after parting company with them, I have some reason to try and recall what they were wearing, 99 times out of a 100 I've no idea. Total non-recall. I wouldn't for a moment associate what they were wearing with the amount of respect they had for me. Or for the occasion. I don't know where the idea comes from. I just thought it was a matter of personal vanity to dress up.

Not at all unique - there are at least two of us! Short of a stranger wearing an eye-patch, or a friend having an obviously new jacket/coat, I just don't register these things unless I have to - to find them later in a crowd, for example.

[ahinton]

Not at all unique - there are at least two of us! Short of a stranger wearing an eye-patch, or a friend having an obviously new jacket/coat, I just don't register these things unless I have to - to find them later in a crowd, for example.

Sure, but you can't get your coat unless you first recognise it!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Sure, but you can't get your coat unless you first recognise it!

True - but I do remember putting on the wrong coat whilst at Primary School because it wasn't on my usual hook; my mother had to point out that it wasn't mine when she came to collect me.



(I was forty-seven and doing Supply work at the time.)

[jean]

...(I was forty-seven and doing Supply work at the time.)

[P. G. Tipps]

Where did the idea come from that what you wear shows respect for other people? Listening to them carefully and responding thoughtfully to what they say, yes.

I presume I'm unique in the entire universe but I can spend three hours in someone's company and if, after parting company with them, I have some reason to try and recall what they were wearing, 99 times out of a 100 I've no idea. Total non-recall. I wouldn't for a moment associate what they were wearing with the amount of respect they had for me. Or for the occasion. I don't know where the idea comes from. I just thought it was a matter of personal vanity to dress up.

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Oh no, no, no!

'Dressing up', as you put it, is quite different from an employee dress-code introduced to maintain certain standards and general group discipline.

The very idea of a ring-nosed, tattooed maestro/a, clad in a filthy tee-shirt and jeans, conducting Bruckner's Mass No 3 would be a truly horrifying prospect indeed for any audience with a sense of occasion and propriety.

However, I'm sure ahinton might well beg to differ ...

[ahinton]

True - but I do remember putting on the wrong coat whilst at Primary School because it wasn't on my usual hook; my mother had to point out that it wasn't mine when she came to collect me.

(I was forty-seven and doing Supply work at the time.)

Mon Dieu! One might be sorely tempted (but shouldn't be!) to ask what "work" you were "supplying" at that time, to whom and why!...

[ahinton]

However, I'm sure ahinton might well beg to differ ...

I wouldn't dream of "begging" to do anything, especially where you're concerned; sorry about that!

[Serial_Apologist]

Where did the idea come from that what you wear shows respect for other people? Listening to them carefully and responding thoughtfully to what they say, yes.

I presume I'm unique in the entire universe but I can spend three hours in someone's company and if, after parting company with them, I have some reason to try and recall what they were wearing, 99 times out of a 100 I've no idea. Total non-recall. I wouldn't for a moment associate what they were wearing with the amount of respect they had for me. Or for the occasion. I don't know where the idea comes from. I just thought it was a matter of personal vanity to dress up.

I'm just the same nowadays. But these days I find most dress codes nonedescript in any case. When did black (or dark grey) suits, trainers, hoodies, baseball caps and leggings start being "fashionable"?

[Serial_Apologist]

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Oh no, no, no!

'Dressing up', as you put it, is quite different from an employee dress-code introduced to maintain certain standards and general group discipline.

The very idea of a ring-nosed, tattooed maestro/a, clad in a filthy tee-shirt and jeans, conducting Bruckner's Mass No 3 would be a truly horrifying prospect indeed for any audience with a sense of occasion and propriety.

However, I'm sure ahinton might well beg to differ ...

That's odd - whenever I hear Bruckner I always associate it with shabby-looking conductors. Musicians in general, actually.

[ahinton]

That's odd - whenever I hear Bruckner I always associate it with shabby-looking conductors. Musicians in general, actually.

Then might I respectfully suggest that you cease and desist from listening to Bruckner until you can manage to rid yourself of such associations?(!)...

[Serial_Apologist]

Then might I respectfully suggest that you cease and desist from listening to Bruckner until you can manage to rid yourself of such associations?(!)...

I will try and divest myself of such associations then.