Anyone forTennis.......Wimbledon 2013

[amateur51]

Well, the three sets that it took Andy Murray to win lasted nearly three and a half hours. The two sets that decided the ladies title took barely an hour.

'Nuff said.

This from someone whose favourite sport's most recent excitement featured a slow wheelchange and a rogue wheel mowing a man down

Nuff said indeed.

And you still haven't answered my questions about relative sizes of crowds and TV audiences, MrPee.

[eighthobstruction]

AM51....You forgot that most exciting driverless car going backwards....

[mangerton]

The question running up here is: Andy winning Wimbles - Scotland's greatest sporting achievement? ...not that there's loads of competition mind you.

Well, Andy Murray certainly done good. However, we must not forget Scotland's rugby team, winners of the Grand Slam in 1990, 1984, and errm........ 1925.

Sandy Lyle won the Masters in 1988.

And we should never lose sight of the Scottish football team trouncing the World Cup holders 3-2 at Wembley in 1967.

I'm kind of struggling now.

[scottycelt]

Well, Andy Murray certainly done good. However, we must not forget Scotland's rugby team, winners of the Grand Slam in 1990, 1984, and errm........ 1925.

Sandy Lyle won the Masters in 1988.

And we should never lose sight of the Scottish football team trouncing the World Cup holders 3-2 at Wembley in 1967.

I'm kind of struggling now.

Oh come, mangerton. How about Celtic's astounding 1967 achievement of being the first non-Latin team to win Europe's elite football trophy with 10 Gaswegians and 1 born a wee bit further down the road in Ayrshire. The same year Rangers reached the Final of the European Cup-Winners Cup.

It was undoubtedly the greatest year in the long history of the game, and not the one before as some south of the border appear to imagine.

I can assure you I remember that quite extraordinary year (1967) very, very well indeed...

[Sir Velo]

I'm kind of struggling now.

Jim Clark & Jackie Stewart (multiple formula one world champions)
Allan Wells (fastest man in the world)
Glasgee Celtic (first British winners of the European Cup)
Ian Stark (multiple winner of Badminton Horse Trials)
Sir Chris Hoy

Er...that's it!

[johncorrigan]

Well, Andy Murray certainly done good. However, we must not forget Scotland's rugby team, winners of the Grand Slam in 1990, 1984, and errm........ 1925.

Sandy Lyle won the Masters in 1988.

And we should never lose sight of the Scottish football team trouncing the World Cup holders 3-2 at Wembley in 1967.

I'm kind of struggling now.

Yes indeed, mangerton...and Chris Hoy and his six golds; Celtic winning the European Cup with a team all born within 40 miles of Parkhead against the mighty Inter Milan; Jackie Stewart winning the World Motor Racing Championship; St Mirren winning the League Cup this season - I'm sure there's more but there's been few that have had the country on their feet like Sunday's win. Actually maybe that legendary game in '67, now that you come to mention it.

[amateur51]

AM51....You forgot that most exciting driverless car going backwards....

[Anna]

there's been few that have had the country on their feet like Sunday's win.

It's an echo of the 2012 Olympics feelgood factor - the whole of the UK united for a change, putting a smile on everyones face. (I know I'll be shouted down but in sport nationality does matter when it looks as though you're in with a chance of winning!)

[amateur51]

It's an echo of the 2012 Olympics feelgood factor - the whole of the UK united for a change, putting a smile on everyones face. (I know I'll be shouted down but in sport nationality does matter when it looks as though you're in with a chance of winning!)

The success of the British & Irish Lions in Australia was every bit as welcome and remarkable as Murray's success - could it be that because few Englishmen and fewer Scots were involved in the end, it's just fallen off a lot of people's radar

[Mary Chambers]

Ahem....I have only the vaguest ideas who the British Lions are. If pushed I'd have said they're something to do with rugby, and Google tells me I'm right. There are also Three Lions somewhere in this shadowy world of 'muddied oafs and flannelled fools'. (Blame Kipling for the description, please, not me.)

[Sir Velo]

Ahem....I have only the vaguest ideas who the British Lions are.

Aren't they something to do with the Marquess of Bath?

[mangerton]

Oh come, mangerton. How about Celtic's astounding 1967 achievement of being the first non-Latin team to win Europe's elite football trophy with 10 Gaswegians and 1 born a wee bit further down the road in Ayrshire. The same year Rangers reached the Final of the European Cup-Winners Cup.

It was undoubtedly the greatest year in the long history of the game, and not the one before as some south of the border appear to imagine.

I can assure you I remember that quite extraordinary year (1967) very, very well indeed...

Thanks scotty, and thanks to all others for their comments. As my absence from the football thread indicates, I'm not really a football fan, though the 1967 Sc - Eng match will long live in my memory.

Shortly after my previous post, I asked a colleague about Scottish sporting achievements. His immediate response was Celtic's 1967 win, and he wasn't even born then!

[gurnemanz]

The success of the British & Irish Lions in Australia was every bit as welcome and remarkable as Murray's success - could it be that because few Englishmen and fewer Scots were involved in the end, it's just fallen off a lot of people's radar

The Lions did really well to win but it is worth bearing in mind that Rugby Union is at a weak ebb in Oz (their coach has just been sacked). The Lions did lose one Test match and came very close to losing another. They also lost to a club team.

Murray is great and really deserves success and adulation. He gets all the hype in UK (+ over-the-top demands for a knighthood) because no other British man is any good. France has 25 men ranked higher than Britain's number two, Dan Evans, ranked 264 in the world. I heard a report on the radio that in France equal weight is being given to Murray and their own winner, Marion Bartoli. Pathetically, the coverage in UK of Bartoli's win seems to have centred around what she looks like.

[amateur51]

The Lions did really well to win but it is worth bearing in mind that Rugby Union is at a weak ebb in Oz (their coach has just been sacked). The Lions did lose one Test match and came very close to losing another. They also lost to a club team.

Doesn't this make the achievement of the total tonking that they gave the Aussies in the final game all the greater?

The Aussies often shoot their managers of sport when they lose.

[aeolium]

Well, Andy Murray certainly done good. However, we must not forget Scotland's rugby team, winners of the Grand Slam in 1990, 1984, and errm........ 1925.

Sandy Lyle won the Masters in 1988.

And we should never lose sight of the Scottish football team trouncing the World Cup holders 3-2 at Wembley in 1967.

I'm kind of struggling now.

As well as the Celtic European Cup triumph in 1967 which has been mentioned, what about Douglas Jardine captaining a team that won the Ashes 4-1 in Australia against a team that contained Bradman, the best batsman in history? OK, Jardine was born in India but of Scottish parents, and was educated partly in Scotland, and it's still some achievement.