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As well as the Celtic European Cup triumph in 1967 which has been mentioned, what about Douglas Jardine captaining a team that won the Ashes 4-1 in Australia against a team that contained Bradman, the best batsman in history? OK, Jardine was born in India but of Scottish parents, and was educated partly in Scotland, and it's still some achievement.
I agree about Jardine, aeolium but I have found that many a Scot is wont to disown him on account of his Bodyline series reputation for apparently unsporting ruthlessness.
As well as the Celtic European Cup triumph in 1967 which has been mentioned, what about Douglas Jardine captaining a team that won the Ashes 4-1 in Australia against a team that contained Bradman, the best batsman in history? OK, Jardine was born in India but of Scottish parents, and was educated partly in Scotland, and it's still some achievement.
Hmmmm, I don't know many Scots who have even heard of Jardine. What proper Scot would even dream of playing for England at anything?
Now that I've mentioned it I think there was one Scot who actually captained England at cricket in my own lifetime but I can't even remember his name.
Whilst these days we'll claim a tiddlywinks champion with a Scottish granny, cricket is of broadly similar popular interest north of the border as curling is to the south.
Now that I've mentioned it I think there was one Scot who actually captained England at cricket in my own lifetime but I can't even remember his name.
Mike Denness played for England. Did he captain the team too?
It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
To move far too far off topic -one thing has always interested me - living until my late twenties very close to the Scottish border, I played lots of football and cricket against Scottish teams. It seemed to me that whilst we in England would usually support Scotland in any international competition if England were eliminated - very few Scots would support England if the roles were reversed.......
To move far too far off topic -one thing has always interested me - living until my late twenties very close to the Scottish border, I played lots of football and cricket against Scottish teams. It seemed to me that whilst we in England would usually support Scotland in any international competition if England were eliminated - very few Scots would support England if the roles were reversed.......
Yes, it's a recognisable phenomenon.
I always support Scotland, Wales and the Irelands, to the same extent that I support England.
To move far too far off topic -one thing has always interested me - living until my late twenties very close to the Scottish border, I played lots of football and cricket against Scottish teams. It seemed to me that whilst we in England would usually support Scotland in any international competition if England were eliminated - very few Scots would support England if the roles were reversed.......
Oh come on ... I've never met an Englishman or woman yet who has excitedly sat in front of a TV yelling their support for any other home country once England has been knocked out of a competition. (admittedly these occasions are few and far between!)
I remember the Scottish World Cup campaigns in the 1970's only too well when my English friends (whose country hadn't even qualified) taunted me incessantly for weeks after the Scots were knocked out. No complaints from me, that's just what I expected, and I would have done exactly the same in reverse.
We maybe have the advantage that we don't expect to succeed. So maybe sporting disappointment is so much easier to bear?
Oh come on ... I've never met an Englishman or woman yet who has excitedly sat in front of a TV yelling their support for any other home country once England has been knocked out of a competition. (admittedly these occasions are few and far between!)
I remember the Scottish World Cup campaigns in the 1970's only too well when my English friends (whose country hadn't even qualified) taunted me incessantly for weeks after the Scots were knocked out. No complaints from me, that's just what I expected, and I would have done exactly the same in reverse.
We maybe have the advantage that we don't expect to succeed. So maybe sporting disappointment is so much easier to bear?
Honest Scotty I was really behind Scotland in the 70s and the Archie goal ......magic....
And I was rooting for the late Jocky Wilson in his World Championship victories over the Crafty Cockney and goody goody John (I only drink halves) Lowe.
Scotland win in the final of the World Women's Curling Championship in Riga, narrowly beating Sweden 6-5.
While the Great Big Lassies keep letting us down at football we can always rely on our Great Wee Lassies coming up trumps ... and they can even manage a smile for the media in the process.
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