The BBC: An Existential Crisis?

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  • Sir Velo
    Full Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 3225

    #31
    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    Not really
    because there are plenty of other places where one can find things these days
    Fine, then don't make us pay for something which doesn't come up to snuff.

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    • anotherbob
      Full Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 1172

      #32
      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      What about those who aren't familiar with such things - especially music - and wouldn't know where/how to seek it out? Why not seriously educative introductions, not frivolous ones which assume people who are ignorant of such things are also stupid?
      Agreed.
      I see in the new issue of RT that the overwhelming number of responses to BS's piece they received were in agreement with him.

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      • amateur51

        #33
        Originally posted by anotherbob View Post
        Agreed.
        I see in the new issue of RT that the overwhelming number of responses to BS's piece they received were in agreement with him.
        I did enjoy his pop at Botney too

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        • aka Calum Da Jazbo
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 9173

          #34
          it is not ironic that such anti university [scholarship, learning, rigour etc] values should be so emphatically pushed by a bunch of graduates with first class minds and degrees ...

          i think it would be a great solution to outsource the entire BBC to NPR in the USA ...

          the more i look into the Trust the shabbier they look ...
          According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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          • Thropplenoggin
            Full Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 1587

            #35
            Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
            AUNT has been badly knocked about in recent years, decades even if we include Birt et al. Brian Sewell is his usual acerbic provocateur in this piece; alas i agree with him .... something i did not contemplate hereto!

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...t-brian-sewell
            What's interesting in this piece - Sewell's points all seem valid to me - is how increasingly banal his interlocutor becomes in defending the BBC:

            MH: 'But the BBC remains a great source of pride to many of us. It's arguably the best broadcaster in the world.'



            Thank, CdJ for linking to this, really cheered my day, especially this: 'I'm a secret devotee of Casualty and Holby City. They're wonderfully soporific. Good for emptying the brain after a working day.'
            It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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            • Sir Velo
              Full Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 3225

              #36
              Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
              What's interesting in this piece - Sewell's points all seem valid to me - is how increasingly banal his interlocutor becomes in defending the BBC:

              MH: 'But the BBC remains a great source of pride to many of us. It's arguably the best broadcaster in the world.'



              Thank, CdJ for linking to this, really cheered my day, especially this: 'I'm a secret devotee of Casualty and Holby City. They're wonderfully soporific. Good for emptying the brain after a working day.'
              My take is that MH was there as a patsy feeding Sewell his lines to him on a plate. Either that or he will be in serious trouble for his half arsed attempts at defending the BBC.

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              • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 9173

                #37
                how typical of AUNT to stuff her Trust with ex broadcasting types and cronies who will spend their entire time second guessing the workings of all those committees and byzantine management structures ... and not giving a fig for license payers at all, nor any societal role of the BBC; business experience and industry experience are scarcely relevant given the task of oversight and will simply lead to meddling or real hands off hand washing and doing things with fingers ... no wonder Snowball [botney] has two salaries [and likely expense accounts, pensions etc ] and it is on Snowball's watch that all the dumb stuff and style has matured ...
                According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                • mercia
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8920

                  #38
                  I've just started reading that Guardian piece and see Sewell calling a presenter a "rat-faced young man" - which makes me not want to read any further

                  Is Sewell nothing more than a frightful snob ?

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                  • Sir Velo
                    Full Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3225

                    #39
                    That's just Sewell's way. I'd persevere to the end of the article IIWY; some richly pertinent points made.

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                    • anotherbob
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1172

                      #40
                      Originally posted by mercia View Post
                      I've just started reading that Guardian piece and see Sewell calling a presenter a "rat-faced young man" - which makes me not want to read any further

                      Is Sewell nothing more than a frightful snob ?
                      Whether or not he is a frightful snob (and I pass no judgement) he makes some very good points. Maybe you should read on

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                      • amateur51

                        #41
                        Originally posted by mercia View Post
                        I've just started reading that Guardian piece and see Sewell calling a presenter a "rat-faced young man" - which makes me not want to read any further

                        Is Sewell nothing more than a frightful snob ?
                        Oh he's much more fascinating than that mercs - if you can be bothered to read the two volumes of his autobiography, he is remarkably candid, not least about Peter Warlock turning out to be his dad.



                        Last edited by Guest; 18-06-13, 16:17. Reason: trypo

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30253

                          #42
                          It looks as if a similar article was in the Radio Times, hence the letters there. Two letters were published and the letters editor commented:

                          Brian Sewell's column clearly hit the spot. Almost to a man and woman you cheered him on.

                          I mentioned this to someone on the phone - you know, one of those brutal, anti-authoritarian lefties - and he was greatly approving of him (while au contraire I was attempting to get my retaliation in first, with a sort of blasé, oh, that awful Brian Sewell, type of thing, to avoid being scoffed at).
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • mercia
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8920

                            #43
                            Sewell's own travelogues - what's the difference
                            In episode 3 of his Grand Tour, Brian Sewell visits Florence. Includes the 'Last of the Medici' scene. Warning: This video contains personal opinions, do n...

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                            • vinteuil
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12793

                              #44
                              Originally posted by mercia View Post
                              Sewell's own travelogues - what's the difference
                              ... the difference is that those travelogues were intended to be travelogues (and jolly good they were too).

                              His objection is to programmes which should not be travelogues - which should be intellectually, culturally, demanding and rewarding - being turned into travelogues à la Palin.

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                              • amateur51

                                #45
                                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                                ... the difference is that those travelogues were intended to be travelogues (and jolly good they were too).

                                His objection is to programmes which should not be travelogues - which should be intellectually, culturally, demanding and rewarding - being turned into travelogues à la Palin.
                                Or worse still à la Whispering Dan Cruickshank

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