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  • kernelbogey
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5803

    More Twitter

    This is off topic, but other than starting a new thread I don't know where else to post this. Perhaps we need a thread entitled simply Harrumph!.

    I listened to some of Night Waves last night and was flabbergasted to hear an invitation to tweet views to that programme too.
  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30456

    #2
    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
    This is off topic, but other than starting a new thread I don't know where else to post this. Perhaps we need a thread entitled simply Harrumph!.

    I listened to some of Night Waves last night and was flabbergasted to hear an invitation to tweet views to that programme too.
    Perhaps it does merit a(nother) Twitter thread? Has to be Platform 3, I'm afraid as it's more of a social phenomenon infecting Radio 3 and far beyond.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      #3

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      • kernelbogey
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 5803

        #4
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Perhaps it does merit a(nother) Twitter thread? Has to be Platform 3, I'm afraid as it's more of a social phenomenon infecting Radio 3 and far beyond.
        Oh I'm honoured!

        A large part of the programme was a pretty heavyweight discussion of the ethical dimensions of tax versus the legal ones. An interesting discussion though McElvoy was a bit bullying in moving her guests on along what she thought was the right trail.

        The other item was Philip Hoare interviewed about his new book The Sea Within (sound fascinating).

        There is something demeaning, but also pathetic, about the request for tweets in response to these items. Is it the need to be fashionable, right on, or is it desperate insecurity on the part of these programme makers? What is wrong with putting out a programme and in effect saying 'This is my programme, take it or leave it'?

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        • Sir Velo
          Full Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 3259

          #5
          Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
          I listened to some of Night Waves last night and was flabbergasted to hear an invitation to tweet views to that programme too.
          Do you consider all interaction between an audience and programme makers to be beyond the pale, or is it just Twitter to which you object?

          If the latter, in what way is Twitter worse than other media, viz. email, letters, texts, phone? It at least has the advantage of enforcing brevity.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30456

            #6
            Another quick check on stats for (re)tweets:

            Radio 3 55,479 (not including separate Radio 3 progs for which I can't find a figure)
            Radio 1 45,813
            Radio 4 22, 628
            Radio 5L 21,794
            Radio 2 15,932

            Comparing tweets with the number of 'followers':
            R1 1,262,966
            R5 263,900
            R2 230,763
            R4 110,799
            R3 20,081
            Disproportionate?

            Radio 3 staff have become insane Twitterers: plenty more progs to tweet about, R3: Choral Evensong, Lunchtime Concert, Composer of the Week...
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12936

              #7
              Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
              Do you consider all interaction between an audience and programme makers to be beyond the pale, or is it just Twitter to which you object?

              If the latter, in what way is Twitter worse than other media, viz. email, letters, texts, phone? It at least has the advantage of enforcing brevity.
              ... nothing wrong with the twitterers twittering among themselves. What becomes offensive is when we - the Great Listening Public - have to be subjected to the tweets being read out as part of a Classical Music Radio Programme...

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              • Sir Velo
                Full Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 3259

                #8
                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                ... nothing wrong with the twitterers twittering among themselves. What becomes offensive is when we - the Great Listening Public - have to be subjected to the tweets being read out as part of a Classical Music Radio Programme...
                But how is it worse than texts, phone-ins, emails, or that relic of a bygone age, the letter?

                Don't get me wrong: I'm old school and object to practically all interaction, unless of great interest, but am interested as to why Twitter is singled out.

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                • aeolium
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3992

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                  But how is it worse than texts, phone-ins, emails, or that relic of a bygone age, the letter?

                  Don't get me wrong: I'm old school and object to practically all interaction, unless of great interest, but am interested as to why Twitter is singled out.
                  Perhaps because it is an instinctive, first-thought-in-your-head type of communication, without much reflection or content. And due to the brevity there can be no kind of reasoned argument, as there can even with an email and letter - just an opinion. There are no great aphorists on Twitter - in fact, has anything interesting or memorable ever been recorded there?

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                  • mercia
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8920

                    #10
                    I was surprised to hear some particularly inane tweets read out during Sunday's Lohengrin broadcast, along the lines of "I'm listening to this in the bath - fantastic", somehow it didn't sound right coming from Mr Macleod amidst an erudite conversation about Knights of the Holy Grail
                    Last edited by mercia; 29-05-13, 14:53.

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                    • kernelbogey
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5803

                      #11
                      Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                      Perhaps because it is an instinctive, first-thought-in-your-head type of communication, without much reflection or content. And due to the brevity there can be no kind of reasoned argument, as there can even with an email and letter - just an opinion. There are no great aphorists on Twitter - in fact, has anything interesting or memorable ever been recorded there?
                      I think this expresses quite well my objection. And that programme makers are soliciting instant top-of-the-head responses. This seems particularly daft in relation to the programme content of Nightwaves.

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                      • Dave2002
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 18035

                        #12
                        If you go to those ROH "performances" in the cinema you are likely to be subjected to "tweets" in the ice cream break. Does anyone really care? I suppose it gives us something to talk (whinge, moan) about!

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                        • teamsaint
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25225

                          #13
                          If you are a keen tweeter, imagine how many you could tweet to raffers on in tune from the Proms queue.

                          Nice.
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • VodkaDilc

                            #14
                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            Another quick check on stats for (re)tweets:

                            Radio 3 55,479 (not including separate Radio 3 progs for which I can't find a figure)
                            Radio 1 45,813
                            Radio 4 22, 628
                            Radio 5L 21,794
                            Radio 2 15,932

                            Comparing tweets with the number of 'followers':
                            R1 1,262,966
                            R5 263,900
                            R2 230,763
                            R4 110,799
                            R3 20,081
                            Disproportionate?

                            Radio 3 staff have become insane Twitterers: plenty more progs to tweet about, R3: Choral Evensong, Lunchtime Concert, Composer of the Week...
                            I have no idea what all those numbers mean! (I almost wrote "I wish I knew what those numbers mean" - but I don't.)

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