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  • Nick Armstrong
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 26540

    #76
    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    He may well have: I've only just caught up with the news that he'd arrived! (The last time I listened to R2, it was Jimmy Young's final prog. Indelibly associated in my memory with Alan Forte's The Structure of Atonal Music - a copy of which I bought from Ilkley Oxfam: listened to JY in the car on the way in and back.)
    You're a strange and complicated fellow, fhg... and I like you!

    PS: I nearly said "...but I like you!"

    Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 31-05-13, 11:13.
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • salymap
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 5969

      #77
      And I didn'tknow George Elrick was still broadcasting after the 1930s Henry Hall radio, my very first radio memory.


      I knew and could sing all the songs HH played, "Why did she fall for the leader of the band" was my favourite, with the 'Teddy Bears' Picnic'. I was about 3 years old

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      • Richard Tarleton

        #78
        When it comes to degrees of separation, Franz Liszt was the Kevin Bacon of classical music. Thanks to his long and gregarious life, extensive travels and pupils whose active lives stretched well into the 20th century, he can be reached in may different ways. Thanks to my chess-playing friend , I can get back to Liszt in 5, which means I'm 6 from Beethoven (whom Liszt met as a boy), Hummel (friend of Liszt's father Adam), Paganini, Chopin, Mendelssohn, Robert and Clara Schumann, Brahms, Rossini, Berlioz, Meyerbeer, Smetana, Wagner and Bruckner.

        Part of the Liszt mythology includes a meeting with Schubert, but Liszt said categorically they never met, although he stayed in Vienna in 1822 a "stone's throw" [Alan Walker] from where Schubert lived. Though he and Verdi were both at a performance of Massenet's Le Cid at the Paris Opera on 27 March 1886, Liszt's party only arrived for the last act and they were not introduced.

        I'm particularly pleased about Bruckner

        Anyone who has shaken hands with Solti backstage can get back to Liszt in 4 - his first teacher was Székely, who studied with Thomán, who studied with Liszt. That person can get back to Beethoven in 5, and Haydn in 6. You know who you are

        PS The director of the Liszt Academy when Solti was there was Jeno Hubay, who had been a pupil of Joachim, an ex-friend of Liszt (because he was a friend of Brahms and opposed to the "new music"). Solti mentions in his memoirs that he attended a recital by Emil von Sauer, one of Liszt's last surviving pupils, but does not mention meeting him. If he had done so that would be Liszt in 3 for anyone who had met Solti - and Beethoven in 4, Haydn in 5.....
        Last edited by Guest; 31-05-13, 17:57.

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        • John Wright
          Full Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 705

          #79
          Originally posted by salymap View Post
          I knew and could sing all the songs HH played, "Why did she fall for the leader of the band" was my favourite, with the 'Teddy Bears' Picnic'. I was about 3 years old
          Well, salymap, a Henry Hall fan! In my (over 200) podcasts I've played more than 70 Henry Hall 78's:



          and I wrote a short internet biography of HH some years ago, here :

          - - -

          John W

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          • amateur51

            #80
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            He may well have: I've only just caught up with the news that he'd arrived! (The last time I listened to R2, it was Jimmy Young's final prog. Indelibly associated in my memory with Alan Forte's The Structure of Atonal Music - a copy of which I bought from Ilkley Oxfam: listened to JY in the car on the way in and back.)
            Oh is Moylesy on Radio 2 now then?

            If so, it is I who needs to keep up

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            • Petrushka
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12260

              #81
              Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
              Anyone who has shaken hands with Solti backstage can get back to Liszt in 4 - his first teacher was Székely, who studied with Thomán, who studied with Liszt. That person can get back to Beethoven in 5, and Haydn in 6. You know who you are
              I think I do, yes.

              I can get to Brahms in three moves via Karl Böhm who was taught by Eusebius Mandyczewski, a friend of Brahms. I met Böhm in December 1978 so can do Richard Strauss in two moves.

              I met Leonard Bernstein in 1985 so that must open up quite a few of interest.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #82
                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                I met Leonard Bernstein in 1985 so that must open up quite a few of interest.
                Hmm.

                Bernstein - Stravinsky - Rimsky-Korsakoff - Balakirev - Berlioz - Cherubini - Beethoven etc

                Bernstein - Boulanger - Vierne - Saint-Saens - Berlioz etc

                ... whichever route, you're back to Bach in ten.
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26540

                  #83
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  Hmm.

                  Bernstein - Stravinsky - Rimsky-Korsakoff - Balakirev - Berlioz - Cherubini - Beethoven etc

                  Bernstein - Boulanger - Vierne - Saint-Saens - Berlioz etc

                  ... whichever route, you're back to Bach in ten.
                  AH! cool! I got a hug off Lenny! That's exciting - Berlioz in 5, Bach in 10

                  Cheers ferns!
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26540

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                    I can do Richard Strauss in two moves.


                    The mind boggles!

                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Flosshilde
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7988

                      #85
                      I've come to the conclusion that I've led a very dull & restricted life - I don't think I've met anybody. I haven't even raked through any dustbins

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                      • salymap
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5969

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                        I've come to the conclusion that I've led a very dull & restricted life - I don't think I've met anybody. I haven't even raked through any dustbins
                        What does 'met' mean though Flossie. I may have met a lot of musicians, only one or two would recognise me by name if they passed me in the street. I was part of the furniture in a way.

                        That's working in music for you.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                          I've come to the conclusion that I've led a very dull & restricted life - I don't think I've met anybody. I haven't even raked through any dustbins
                          Quick, flossie; send a PM to ahinton

                          - Busoni - everyone!
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • amateur51

                            #88
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            Quick, flossie; send a PM to ahinton

                            - Busoni - everyone!


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                            • salymap
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5969

                              #89
                              Does a link with the Busoni PC, all 80 minutes count?

                              I got the parts in from, err, somewhere, arranged a fee with the record company for John Ogdon recording.

                              Everyone away but me, apparently I did okay. Sadly never got around to hearing the recording.

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                              • Flosshilde
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7988

                                #90
                                Originally posted by salymap View Post
                                I was part of the furniture in a way.
                                I don't think you could ever just be 'part of the furniture'

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