We're all doomed!

[Dave2002]

http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsandeventspggrp/imperialcollege/newssummary/news_10-5-2013-16-39-30

[greenilex]

Title clearly true at the most basic level, and not news. But we are none of us putting enough pressure on our masters, who pretend to be "listening".

While individuals can do little, nations can exert pressure even on commercially-driven multinationals. Rising sea levels and turbulence in the upper atmosphere cannot be good for business...

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

The fact is that the effects will not be felt very much by people who make the decisions today. Our descendents will be the ones who will have to attempt to deal with the consequences of generations of greed and over-population.

[Pabmusic]

It's a non-news story. There has been clear evidence for years that Earth is heating up and that the level of CO2 is rising. It's been well publicised. All that has happened here is that the rise has reached 400 parts per million - a purely artificial scale and not significant, except to confirm what we already knew. This sums it up (taken from the BBC website):

"British atmospheric physicist Prof Joanna Haigh commented: "In itself, the value 400ppm of CO2 has no particular significance for the physics of the climate system: concentration levels have been in the 300s for so long and now we've passed the 400 mark. However, this does give us the chance to mark the ongoing increase in CO2 concentration and talk about why it's a problem for the climate."

Still, perhaps it will be a little more difficult for climate-change deniers to continue to have the impact they do, particularly in the USA. Perhaps.

[amateur51]

It's a non-news story. There has been clear evidence for years that Earth is heating up and that the level of CO2 is rising. It's been well publicised. All that has happened here is that the rise has reached 400 parts per million - a purely artificial scale and not significant, except to confirm what we already knew. This sums it up (taken from the BBC website):

"British atmospheric physicist Prof Joanna Haigh commented: "In itself, the value 400ppm of CO2 has no particular significance for the physics of the climate system: concentration levels have been in the 300s for so long and now we've passed the 400 mark. However, this does give us the chance to mark the ongoing increase in CO2 concentration and talk about why it's a problem for the climate."

Still, perhaps it will be a little more difficult for climate change deniers to continue to have the impact they do, particularly in the USA. Perhaps.

I wonder how many gay men are climate change deniers?

I bet Prof Niall Ferguson would hazard a guess

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22417231

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Yes, 400 is just a number. Similarly, when unemployment exceeds 1 million... 2 million... 3 million... it's jst a number, but it's still significant.

[amateur51]

Surely this headline would cancel out the anti-EU speeches by Boris Johnson, Nigel Lawson and a goodly chunk of The UKIP Effect

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22500121

[Pabmusic]

I wonder how many gay men are climate change deniers?

I bet Prof Niall Ferguson would hazard a guess

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22417231

Niall Ferguson has obviously hit on the answer, Ams. It all depends on the definitions of 'care'...about'...'society's'...'future'. Now where's my dictionary...?

[Dave2002]

I wonder how many gay men are climate change deniers?

I bet Prof Niall Ferguson would hazard a guess

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22417231

What's all this got to do with the price of a loaf of bread?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Lopokova

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/08/was-keynes-a-better-economist-because-he-was-gay.html

Or climate change too, for that matter

[eighthobstruction]

This will probably be an interesting programme tonight....http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ic_Mr_Feynman/

[Dave2002]

Surely this headline would cancel out the anti-EU speeches by Boris Johnson, Nigel Lawson and a goodly chunk of The UKIP Effect

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22500121

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22500121

I see you like repetition.

[Pabmusic]

This will probably be an interesting programme tonight....http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ic_Mr_Feynman/

This is a favourite quote from Richard Feynman:

"I think it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which might be wrong. I have approximate answers and possible beliefs and different degrees of uncertainty about different things, but I am not absolutely sure of anything and there are many things I don't know anything about, such as whether it means anything to ask why we're here. I don't have to know an answer. I don't feel frightened not knowing things, by being lost in a mysterious universe without any purpose, which is the way it really is as far as I can tell."

[eighthobstruction]

Yep, I'll say yes to that Pabmusic....

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Yep, I'll say yes to that Pabmusic....

Me, too.

(Or should I say, "I think I would, under any of the circumstances that occur to me at the moment"?)

[amateur51]

I see you like repetition.

My mistake, now removed Dave2002 - many thanks