Old lady dies (see other post)

[An_Inspector_Calls]

Why so much perplexity about this issue of forum content? The other thread, esp. at the beginning, was simply appalling. There was no informed debate, just sickening bile. As a reminder, look what spilled into this thread (#10). The thread should have been parked after about the first five pages of disgusting behaviour. Why didn't the moderators block this sort of content?

[eighthobstruction]

Der nogger obviously never had the hot savoury juice of a Standforth Pie dribbling down his wrist, soaking into his shirt (ready to suck later)....back to the Colonies my man....

[MrGongGong]

Why so much perplexity about this issue of forum content? The other thread, esp. at the beginning, was simply appalling. There was no informed debate, just sickening bile. As a reminder, look what spilled into this thread (#10). The thread should have been parked after about the first five pages of disgusting behaviour. Why didn't the moderators block this sort of content?

Absolutely right
we can't have the proles saying what they like can we ?
That leads to anarchy we all know where that gets you ?

(CD's in the post faster than Amazon it would seem )

I thought #10 expressed really well what many people feel, sadness for feeling pleased at something you wouldn't wish on anyone and a belief in music ..........

[Richard Barrett]

There was no informed debate, just sickening bile.

Not really. (Though it's impossible to check now.) There was some strongly-worded criticism of a certain deceased person, which the person's admirers, or those who cleave to the principle of not "speaking ill of the dead" (although why that should be a universal principle is not at all clear to me), might choose to regard as sickening bile. But that is a matter of opinion. Again I might point out that it was the critical contingent also who were contributing facts and statistics to the discussion, as opposed to complaints of impropriety and unsupported anecdotes.

[Stillhomewardbound]

Pardon me if I seem peevish but amongst the people being voluble in the discussion re: the forum pages are a number of names I've never seen before. Yes, blow-ins, telling us that it should be this, it should be that.

Well, thank you for your apparent concern, but since their inception by the Friends of Radio 3 these boards have, for the most part, run very smoothly.

This week's events are entirely without precedent and any fracas that has taken place here is akin only to the intense level of debate taking place in the wider world. This disturbance will pass and I, for one, would urge that no rash decisions are made to provide a contingency for an event the like of which is unlikely to recur.

Roll on Wednesday when we can put all this behind us.

[Bryn]

Pardon me if I seem peevish but amongst the people being voluble in the discussion re: the forum pages are a number of names I've never seen before. Yes, blow-ins, telling us that it should be this, it should be that.

Well, thank you for your apparent concern, but since their inception by the Friends of Radio 3 these boards have, for the most part, run very smoothly.

This week's events are entirely without precedent and any fracas that has taken place here is akin only to the intense level of debate taking place in the wider world. This disturbance will pass and I, for one, would urge that no rash decisions are made to provide a contingency for an event the like of which is unlikely to occur.

Roll on Wednesday when we can put all this behind us.

I think you may well be referring to a small number of long time contributors to the old BBC Radio 3 boards who departed when they were closed by the Beeb but have recently resumed their participation contribution here. As such they have a far longer association with these boards remit than, for instance, you good self.

[Thropplenoggin]

I think you may well be referring to a small number of long time contributors to the old BBC Radio 3 boards who departed when they were closed by the Beeb but have recently resumed their participation contribution here. As such they have a far longer association with these boards remit than, for instance, you good self.

A bit harsh, Bryn, for newer members, such as myself, who aren't to know of this previous involvement.

[ahinton]

That strategy certainly works brilliantly in the House of Commons, where jeering and intemperate comments are never to be heard.

Really, though, that is a silly idea (note that I say silly idea, not the idea of a silly person). From what I can see, a lot of the nastiness on "political" threads comes from a conflict between those who think he/she who shouts loudest is bound to be right, and those who think that assertions ought to be backed up by a bit of research and an attempt to investigate the facts - the former annoy the latter because, well, it's annoying; and the latter annoy the former who can't be bothered to do the research, are worried about what they may find, or regard their own opinions as trumping any facts. I don't think that would change fundamentally without declaring one subject of another off-limits, and I'm sure there are many of us who wouldn't have much interest in a forum with such restrictions.

Hear, hear!

[Bryn]

No harshness intended. The "good self" was a sincere qualification. I posted for information. There may be others whose provenance is unclear.

[ahinton]

Roll on Wednesday when we can put all this behind us.

I wonder to what extent a certain Welsh lady described by some as a singer might see it this way? That said, I agree, although the issues will clearly remain thereafter.

[Thropplenoggin]

No harshness intended. The "good self" was a sincere qualification. I posted for information. There may be others whose provenance is unclear.

[An_Inspector_Calls]

Not really. (Though it's impossible to check now.) There was some strongly-worded criticism of a certain deceased person, which the person's admirers, or those who cleave to the principle of not "speaking ill of the dead" (although why that should be a universal principle is not at all clear to me), might choose to regard as sickening bile. But that is a matter of opinion. Again I might point out that it was the critical contingent also who were contributing facts and statistics to the discussion, as opposed to complaints of impropriety and unsupported anecdotes.

I had/have no problem whatsoever with people expressing opinions about what Thatcher did, good or bad. However, much of the disappeared thread didn't manage any formal criticism, just simple bile cf. #10 here. It was quite shocking that people should think it was acceptable to behave in that manner. I assume that was why the thread was withdrawn - far too late though.

[MrGongGong]

I had/have no problem whatsoever with people expressing opinions about what Thatcher did, good or bad. However, much of the disappeared thread didn't manage any formal criticism, just simple bile cf. #10 here. It was quite shocking that people should think it was acceptable to behave in that manner. I assume that was why the thread was withdrawn - far too late though.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/mark-steel-you-cant-just-shut-us-up-now-that-margaret-thatchers-dead-8568785.html

puts it better than I could

[Flosshilde]

I had/have no problem whatsoever with people expressing opinions about what Thatcher did, good or bad. However, much of the disappeared thread didn't manage any formal criticism, just simple bile cf. #10 here. It was quite shocking that people should think it was acceptable to behave in that manner. I assume that was why the thread was withdrawn - far too late though.

This is post no. 10 in its entirity. There's no indication that it has been edited -

Lovely post pab.

I am glad that Mrs T has died.

It's not big,it's not clever and I wish I wasn't glad,but I have my reasons and it is what it is.

As I hit here at my desk working from home,with my 8 year old best friend by my side (labrador btw)I am wondering why Rubbra's 8th symphony makes me cry.

Bile?!

[Bryn]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...d-8568785.html

puts it better than I could

A fine piece of writing, with the compassion appropriately directed.