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  • Pabmusic
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    • May 2011
    • 5537

    Old lady dies (see other post)

    I've had a good day (I am, of course seven hours ahead of most of you, and it's now dark). I'm lying here on my bed with my faithful 13-year-old Yorkie at my side, and I'm contemplating the wonder and ecstasy of life and death.

    An old lady died the other day - it was probably a merciful release, given that she was (it is said) suffering from dementia, Alzheimer's or whatever. She had not been a public figure for more than 20 years, but her passing has provoked a surge of tributes and invective, the like of which has not been experienced since...I can't recall. There have even been calls for her to be 'Oliver Cromwelled' (dug up and hanged?).

    Well, I suspect she deserved some of the invective. She appeared insensitive, uncaring, divisive, gloating and...I can't think, as she helped to dismantle much that seemed important, without apparent concern for those affected. Haig, it is said, suffered sleepless nights over the casualty lists, even when were winning, but the impression is that the old lady didn't. Yet she was not alone, and could never have done what she did on her own. She was surrounded by fine, upstanding figures, giants of politics - Michael Heseltine, John Biffen, Willie Whitelaw, Keith Joseph, Nigel Lawson and more (including a Classic FM presenter). She held sway in an era when 'self' was all-important, and she epitomised that attitude, though I suspect it would be too much to think that she caused it.

    No, I cannot be surprised by the invective, though it would have meant nothing to the old lady, since she was doo-lally [I've never written that before - spelling?]. And since I cannot conceive of a soul or an afterlife, it's all over for her anyway.

    We, however, are still here, and it's a lovely day. And I've just finished listening to a symphony by Asger Hamerik [who he?], the Symphonie Lyrique. I recommend it. It seems more meaningful than the death of an old lady.
  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30652

    #2
    Oh dear, when you mentioned your faithful 13-year-old Yorkie I thought at first you were going to say that she had died ...

    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • eighthobstruction
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 6469

      #3
      Enjoy Pabmusic....my dyslexia has always read your dwelling as Cadiz....now I realise you are in the Phillipines....
      bong ching

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      • Stillhomewardbound
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1109

        #4
        The sun is out here in Blackheath. Just about.

        I had an interesting evening with a friend at his flat with curry and wine and wine, and more wine. Consquently he ended up playing the piano rather badly which I sang faux-lieder as I like to call. All very Dudley Moore but it made us laugh.

        Truth is, I think I'd like to sing lieder for real. I'm fifty and even if I say so myself my voice has nicely seasoned into a Dietrich Fischer Dieskau style of baritone.

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        • Pabmusic
          Full Member
          • May 2011
          • 5537

          #5
          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          Oh dear, when you mentioned your faithful 13-year-old Yorkie I thought at first you were going to say that she had died ...

          Oh no! He's very much alive, if unsteady on his legs sometimes, and he has cataracts in both eyes, but he can still chase people and yap like there's no tomorrow.

          Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
          Enjoy Pabmusic....my dyslexia has always read your dwelling as Cadiz....now I realise you are in the Phillipines....
          Yes indeed - Capiz shell and all that.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #6
            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
            I'm lying here on my bed with my faithful 13-year-old Yorkie at my side, and I'm contemplating the wonder and ecstasy of life and death.
            Shouldn't this be on the "Chocolate Bars" Thread?
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Pabmusic
              Full Member
              • May 2011
              • 5537

              #7
              Originally posted by Stillhomewardbound View Post
              The sun is out here in Blackheath. Just about.

              I had an interesting evening with a friend at his flat with curry and wine and wine, and more wine. Consquently he ended up playing the piano rather badly which I sang faux-lieder as I like to call. All very Dudley Moore but it made us laugh.

              Truth is, I think I'd like to sing lieder for real. I'm fifty and even if I say so myself my voice has nicely seasoned into a Dietrich Fischer Dieskau style of baritone.
              Two things that are not in plentiful supply here are - curry and wine (and more wine). Shame!

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              • Pabmusic
                Full Member
                • May 2011
                • 5537

                #8
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                Shouldn't this be on the "Chocolate Bars" Thread?

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26601

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  Shouldn't this be on the "Chocolate Bars" Thread?
                  That's the spirit, ferney!!!



                  Thank you pabs for this thread which is a great antidote to the Thatcher-wrangling (which is beyond both endurance and parody imo). Give your faithful companion a biscuit from me!
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • EdgeleyRob
                    Guest
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12180

                    #10
                    Lovely post pab.

                    I am glad that Mrs T has died.

                    It's not big,it's not clever and I wish I wasn't glad,but I have my reasons and it is what it is.

                    As I hit here at my desk working from home,with my 8 year old best friend by my side (labrador btw)I am wondering why Rubbra's 8th symphony makes me cry.

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                    • Pabmusic
                      Full Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 5537

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      ...Thank you pabs for this thread which is a great antidote to the Thatcher-wrangling (which is beyond both endurance and parody imo). Give your faithful companion a biscuit from me!
                      He sends his thanks. Zach is his name.

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                      • vinteuil
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 13065

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                        Zach is his name.
                        ... from Zachariah / Zecheriah?

                        If ever you need source material for the bonkersness of religion Zachariah is a good place to start.

                        Fr'instance - a 'helpful' gloss, courtesy of wiki :

                        "The bad shepherds/good Shepherd allegory of chapters 10 through 13 and the climax "Day of the Lord" have mystical symbolism not comprehended by traditional scholarship. These are illustrative of the corrupted priesthood (10:3) -- bad shepherds -- and the spiritual master that is "raised up" (11:16) by the Lord Himself as 'good' Shepherd. The "redeemed" of 10:8 will "walk in His Name", or glory in his Word or Spirit, later symbolized by the "sword" of the good Shepherd. In 11:4, the Lord says (presumably to Zechariah), "Become shepherd of the flock doomed to slaughter". This is a good thing, as is what is to be done to them in 11:16: "tearing off even their hoofs", as the Shepherd "devours their flesh". This is deeply symbolic. It means the Master will take over the fate of the sheep and remove their "sin and uncleanness" by the "Fountain opened in the house of David" (13:1) -- or the Holy Spirit, Word, or "Name of the Lord". This Holy Spirit takes on a persona in 13:7 as "sword" of the Shepherd: "Awake, O sword of my Shepherd, against the man who is my companion [or intimate], says the Lord of hosts. Strike, O Shepherd, that the sheep may be troubled, and I will return my hand upon the little ones." The sword doesn't strike him, but the sheep! The sheep are "troubled" (not "scattered") in spirit by the "sword" of the good Shepherd. They are the "little ones" upon whom the Lord "returns his hand", who will become the "[Lord's] people" when they "call on my Name" (13:9). The shepherd in this climax set of verses of the good/bad shepherd sequence is the good shepherd. The egos of these "little ones" are "slaughtered", and the sheep -- the lower selves of the people -- are "slain". This is how the Lord becomes one with his chosen people, as the glory of the "spoil taken from you" and "divided within you" (14:1)."

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                        • Suffolkcoastal
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3297

                          #13
                          I know the Hamerik Pabmusic, but I can't recall exactly what my comments were on it on my symphonic journey, I'll have to remind myself, hope this doesn't mean that I'm already going the same way as a certain old lady with whom I unfortunately shared a birthday. I kept the TV off on Monday evening (nothing new there) , was too busy as work to notice notice during tthe day and finished 1968 and did my type for the MB during the evening.

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                          • Pabmusic
                            Full Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 5537

                            #14
                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            ... from Zachariah / Zecheriah?

                            If ever you need source material for the bonkersness of religion Zachariah is a good place to start...
                            Your quote is amazing. Why have we missed that all these years? I shall not read it to Zach - he might vomit.

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                            • Richard Tarleton

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                              I'm contemplating the wonder and ecstasy of life and death.
                              And I've been out contemplating the annual renewal of life represented by feathered creatures weighing just a few grams on their astounding journey from sub-Saharan Africa, stopping off on a coastal headland near me for a feed before moving on. The Siberian winds have kept them back these last two weeks, but with the milder weather these next few days they should come flodding through - sorry, this should probably be on Stormy Weather.

                              PS plenty of spring lambs doomed to slaughter as well.

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