Ever get those pesky Mahler symphonies confused?

[Nick Armstrong]

Help is at hand!!

[mercia]

very good, though I don't seem to have a problem with Mahler symphonies

could we have the same for Mozart piano concertos ?

[MrGongGong]

I never new that Mahler 7 started with a "Baritone horn" ?

hummm

[teamsaint]

if possibly unreliable.

Has one been done for vivaldi concertos?!

Could be of use to the "Breakfast" production team?

[ostuni]

I never new that Mahler 7 started with a "Baritone horn" ?

hummm

Well yes, it does! The German/Austrian Tenorhorn is pitched in Bb, and has much the same bore as the Saxhorn in Bb, which is known as the Baritone in English-speaking countries. Our Tenor Horn (Saxhorn in Eb) is much smaller: not at all thr right instrument for that imposing solo...

[Tony Halstead]

Isn't it frequently played, by a horn player, on a Wagner Tuba in Bb?

[MrGongGong]

Isn't it frequently played, by a horn player, on a Wagner Tuba in Bb?

That's the spirit
doubling fees Ker-ching


I know this is somewhat pedantic BUT I frequently have to try and explain why "Soft" is not the opposite of "Loud" even though in common parlance it might be.
"Soft" is indicative of a specific timbre (as opposed to Hard) rather than a dynamic what's wrong with "Quiet" ?
This is a lost battle I know so i'm not going to stress over it too much (1st class train to London , free breakfast and a session at the ROH today ..... so little to moan about )

[ostuni]

I'm sure horn players frequently poach the solo But isn't a Bb Wagner Tuba rather narrower in bore than a baritone? For what it's worth, the only live performance I've heard, at the Proms at least 20 years ago, used Steve Saunders (more commonly seen on bass trombones & sackbuts). And the one YouTube I found this morning has one of the Concertgebouw's trombonists, Nico Schippers, demonstrating it.

[Alain Maréchal]

Thanks Caliban,

This is needed more than many would admit. My problem is identifying inner movements out of context, and the question most often aimed at me by my spouse is "which is the one with the birch twigs?".

[BBMmk2]

Great post there Calki!! I never get my Mahler Symphonies confused! :)

[ahinton]

No.

But then I've yet to hear a "pesky" one, so what do I know?...

Does anyone ever get those Haydn ones confused? - or the Hovhaness ones? - or the Bourgeois ones? - or, for that matter, the Segerstam ones? (after all, there must be some 500 of them among all that lot)...

[amateur51]

I never new that Mahler 7 started with a "Baritone horn" ?

hummm

I thought it started with strings, me

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

My problem is identifying inner movements out of context, and the question most often aimed at me by my spouse is "which is the one with the birch twigs?".

Second Movement of Symphony Number Seven.

(Strictly speaking, "Baritone Birch Twigs" )

[amateur51]

Second Movement of Symphony Number Seven.

(Strictly speaking, "Baritone Birch Twigs" )

Is he one of the Shropshire Birch Twigses?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Is he one of the Shropshire Birch Twigses?

Oh, you know Barry, too?!