Programme presentation on R3

[Flosshilde]

Because ...

Feel free to use this space to complain about Radio 3 presenters, thereby keeping other threads free of irrelevant moans.

[Thread title amended to generalise the topic, Floss's intention in naming it not having been an open invitation to bash the bêtes noires - ff]

[ahinton]

Because ...

Feel free to use this space to complain about Radio 3 presenters, thereby keeping other threads free of irrelevant moans.

Do you really believe that anyone here actively dislikes (the presentational style and content of) all Radio 3 presenters as distinct from having individual preferences and non-preferences, as your thread topic appears to suggest?

Furthermore, where some content is concerned, oughtn't properly balanced views on this also to have due regard for the requirements and/or expectations of producers in terms of their impact on presentations?

[Julien Sorel]

Because ...

Spring and summer 2011 saw bell bottom jeans make a comeback. I'll never forgive R3 presenters for that. Back in the 1970s, when bell bottom jeans were at their most popular, no R3 announcer (for such they were) would have contemplated mentioning the fact while introducing a concert. But now? What's the first thing Katie Derham doesn't say? 'Hi, wonder what Beethoven would have thought of bell bottom jeans making a comeback?'

Let me tell you Katie Derham, I don't care what Beethoven would have made of bell bottom jeans making a comeback. How dare you not mention it. I'll tell you another thing. The word "bottom" should only ever be used on R3 when referring to the Shakespeare character or Mendelssohn's incidental music to A Midsummer Night's Dream. Otherwise R3 is no place for bottoms.

Feel free to use this space to complain about Radio 3 presenters, thereby keeping other threads free of irrelevant moans.

[Alison]

I find considerable amusement value in KD.

SM-P is the odd one. Formulaic and repetitive on Breakfast, just lovely and engaging on Proms TV.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

actually i am fond of them all .... RW picks 'em for reasons he alone knows ....

i would not want to talk at me all day!

the substantive point is that as individuals i do not wish nor see good reaason to not like them; as purveyors of r3 editorial and production values they are messengers. it is the message that i have difficulties with ... music selections, promotions, etc etc

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

SM-P is the odd one. Formulaic and repetitive on Breakfast, just lovely and engaging on Proms TV.

She gets so much better as the day goes on - her work on Hear & Now is excellent, and she is superb in discussions with composers and performers (and, indeed, audiences when recording open talks from festivals). She also did a splendid double Discovering Music on the "Brandenburgs" of which Lennie would have approved. It's just on Breakfast that she drives me up the wall!

And, to try to balance my unfavourable comments about KD in other Threads, I heard her on R4 last year introducing a programme about Synchronized Swimming: her pace was less flustered, her vocal pitch was about a Fifth lower, and she didn't have that annoying "chuckle" in her voice that she seems to think is obligatory when introducing "Classical" Music. It was engaging and totally listenable - AND concerned a topic of which she has a lot of knowledge and experience, which I think is significant.

[eighthobstruction]

actually i am fond of them all .... RW picks 'em for reasons he alone knows ....

i would not want to talk at me all day!

the substantive point is that as individuals i do not wish nor see good reaason to not like them; as purveyors of r3 editorial and production values they are messengers. it is the message that i have difficulties with ... music selections, promotions, etc etc

How very very balanced....considering you are under the weather....

[french frank]

It perhaps should be made clear (Floss will correct me if I misrepresent him ) that he has frequently groused about posts which complain about presenters. He has suggested before that such posts should be contained on a single thread as he gets fed up with them. As far as I know, the thread title does NOT represent his own view. Nor, as far as I know, is it in its all-encompassing universality an accurate description of anyone's so far stated view.

However, comments about R3 presenters do have the merit of having more to do with Radio 3 than many other forum topics to which Floss contributes ...

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

how very double edged those last two posts ....

[eighthobstruction]

However, comments about R3 presenters do have the merit of having more to do with Radio 3 than many other forum topics to which Floss contributes ...

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[Flosshilde]

It perhaps should be made clear (Floss will correct me if I misrepresent him ) that he has frequently groused about posts which complain about presenters.

I would query 'frequently' - 'sometimes', perhaps. & I never grouse (eat them, very rarely).

He has suggested before that such posts should be contained on a single thread as he gets fed up with them.

Have I? I don't remember.

As far as I know, the thread title does NOT represent his own view. Nor, as far as I know, is it in its all-encompassing universality an accurate description of anyone's so far stated view.

Absolutely right. I started the present thread with more than a little tongue-in-cheekery (or should that be tongue-in-cheekily?) after a thread I started commenting on the differences in repertoire on In Tune became yet another 'I can't stand X' thread.

However, comments about R3 presenters do have the merit of having more to do with Radio 3 than many other forum topics to which Floss contributes ...

Oh dear - is that a slap on the wrist? I'll try & increase my posts about music (except that I don't think they will be very interesting, & so often when I listen to a concert on Po3 & think 'that was good' I find that Hornspieler et al have posted saying that it was appalling, so I'm a bit hesitant about commenting & thereby demonstrating that I know nothing).

Actually, ff, I don't think it's true. I have recently posted a lot to a couple of non-R3 related threads (eg 'Gay marriage') recently, but that's because they are topics I feel strongly about. I think that in the past though I have contributed to R3 & music related threads more than I have recently. But perhaps you should also reprimand Scottycelt, whose balance of posts is, I think, roughly similar.

Anyway, I didn't realise that we had to maintain a certain proportion of R3-related posts - what percentage is it?

[Sir Velo]

However, comments about R3 presenters do have the merit of having more to do with Radio 3 than many other forum topics to which Floss contributes ...

The only possible retort Flosshilde can make after that is, "Touche"!

[Flosshilde]

Oh no it's not - see my post immediately preceeding yours

[JFLL]

I think that since Radio 3 is now so presenter-led, it’s inevitable that there’ll be a lot of comment and criticism of presentation and individual presenters. If they went back to straightforward announcing they wouldn’t invite so much criticism.

[Nick Armstrong]

She gets so much better as the day goes on...

Agreed... which goes to show how much real blame falls on the numb-skull directives and the (to be charitable) hapless 'early morning' producers who have to carry them into effect....