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  • Richard Tarleton

    Team captain Leo was interviewed by Evan Davis on PM yesterday, on becoming a social media sensation - they replayed some of his correct starters.

    I'm happy to say I got the Grocer Fugue (deaf composers - one of them was bound to be Beethoven) but he was bl**dy quick off the mark with Smetana.....

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26539

      Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
      Team captain Leo was interviewed by Evan Davis on PM yesterday, on becoming a social media sensation - they replayed some of his correct starters.

      I'm happy to say I got the Grocer Fugue (deaf composers - one of them was bound to be Beethoven) but he was bl**dy quick off the mark with Smetana.....
      Yes he was phenomenal. He blew Cugini, the highly-strung Emmanuel captain, out of the water - she was all over the place.

      Got all the deaf composers save RVW - to my shame, I didn't know he was deaf by the time he wrote the 9th which I don't really know well in any event
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • Richard Tarleton

        Yesterday....the minor composer vinteuil.....

        Dozed off so can't remember much more.

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        • LMcD
          Full Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 8478

          Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
          Yesterday....the minor composer vinteuil.....

          Dozed off so can't remember much more.
          It wasn't the most gripping of contests, was it?

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          • Boilk
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 976

            Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
            Team captain Leo was interviewed by Evan Davis on PM yesterday, on becoming a social media sensation - they replayed some of his correct starters.

            I'm happy to say I got the Grocer Fugue (deaf composers - one of them was bound to be Beethoven) but he was bl**dy quick off the mark with Smetana.....
            Even before the (final) Grocer Fugue excerpt began I would have unhesitatingly yelped "Beethoven" for the last of the three bonuses. First of all, the last of any set of three bonus questions is usually the easiest and, with the link being deaf composers, Beethoven was surely the raison d'être for the questions?

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            • Stanfordian
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 9314

              Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
              Team captain Leo was interviewed by Evan Davis on PM yesterday, on becoming a social media sensation - they replayed some of his correct starters.

              I'm happy to say I got the Grocer Fugue (deaf composers - one of them was bound to be Beethoven) but he was bl**dy quick off the mark with Smetana.....
              I didn't know that Smetana and RVW became deaf. You learn something new every day.

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                I didn't know that Smetana and RVW became deaf. You learn something new every day.
                I am shocked to read that but promise not to cold shoulder you over it.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                  I didn't know that Smetana and RVW became deaf. You learn something new every day.
                  - Smetana's encroaching deafness is represented in his From My Life Quartet by the high first violin harmonic that interrupts the previously vigorous Music in the Finale.

                  RVW's problems (I don't think he ever became profoundly deaf) probably originated in his experience of the big guns during the First World War (and, thinking about it, his work in the Blitz wouldn't have helped, either). There are photos from his later years which show a very prominent hearing aid.

                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • JimD
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 267

                    With Smetana I have heard more references to the tinnitus from which he suffered, and that it was the tinnitus to which the quartet referred.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      Originally posted by JimD View Post
                      With Smetana I have heard more references to the tinnitus from which he suffered, and that it was the tinnitus to which the quartet referred.
                      Yes - the UC question referred to composers' "deafness or hearing loss" (or similar words); I was being careless using "deafness" as a "catchall" there.
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30308

                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        There are photos from his later years which show a very prominent hearing aid.
                        Even an ear trumpet (1957 at a meeting of the Third Programme Defence Society)

                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • LMcD
                          Full Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8478

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Even an ear trumpet (1957 at a meeting of the Third Programme Defence Society)

                          I take it the Third Programme Defence Society was the prototype of this Forum...

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22127

                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                            I take it the Third Programme Defence Society was the prototype of this Forum...
                            They would shedding tears now at what has happened to their beloved 464 MW!

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                              They would shedding tears now at what has happened to their beloved 464 MW!
                              With less than 3 hours of music a day, more often than not in the '50s, I reckon they would be hppy to put up with the current weaknesses, given that we get way more music each day.

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                              • Richard Tarleton

                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                Even an ear trumpet (1957 at a meeting of the Third Programme Defence Society)

                                When Cali posted this photo on a previous occasion I was not the only one to observe that just about everyone in the photo was smoking but that RVW appeared to be inserting his pipe into the wrong orifice.

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