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  • Boilk
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 976

    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    ...but those who do always seem to be trying to assert some superiority
    Any evidence for that?
    I've found that contestants generally imitate the phraseology already used. So if one team member starts with "reading" it is often copied by the next member. But in recent years the tendency has increasingly been to use "studying". Some even say "doing a masters in..."

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    • ardcarp
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11102

      "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
      Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest
      Wonderful!

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37684

        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
        Wonderful!
        It always evokes Margaaret Rutherford - not just in that wonderful film, but playing the role of the Ian Carmichael character's rich aunt in "I'm All Right Jack".

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        • alycidon
          Full Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 459

          I could not possibly agree with you more. I sit on the edge of my chair when the contestants are introducing themselves wondering which ones will have the decency to greet me with a ‘hello’ or ‘Good Evening’ and I remain bitterly disappointed on most occasions.

          I can’t remember if we had this solecism in Bamber Gascoigne’s days. Can anyone?
          Money can't buy you happiness............but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery - Spike Milligan

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          • Boilk
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 976

            Originally posted by LHC View Post
            "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
            Education is what remains when we have forgotten all that we have been taught.
            - Lord Halifax (President of the Board of Education 1922-24, 1932-35; Chancellor of Oxford University 1933-59)

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            • un barbu
              Full Member
              • Jun 2017
              • 131

              Originally posted by Boilk View Post
              Education is what remains when we have forgotten all that we have been taught.
              - Lord Halifax (President of the Board of Education 1922-24, 1932-35; Chancellor of Oxford University 1933-59)
              Remembering always Dr Johnson in the introduction to his Dictionary: "Sudden fits of inadvertency will surprise vigilance, slight avocations will seduce attention and casual eclipses of the mind will darken learning." Now in my eighth decade I find all of that increasingly true.
              Barbatus sed non barbarus

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              • LMcD
                Full Member
                • Sep 2017
                • 8467

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                "Good evening" would be even better...
                Unless you're watching earlier on another day on iPlayer.

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12824

                  Originally posted by un barbu View Post
                  Remembering always Dr Johnson in the introduction to his Dictionary: "Sudden fits of inadvertency will surprise vigilance, slight avocations will seduce attention and casual eclipses of the mind will darken learning." Now in my eighth decade I find all of that increasingly true.
                  ... " Lastly, we are not magisterial in opinions, nor have we dictator-like obtruded our conceptions; but, in the humility of enquiries or disquisitions, have only proposed them unto more ocular discerners. And therefore opinions are free; and open it is for any to think or declare the contrary. And we shall so far encourage contradiction, as to promise no disturbance, or re-oppose any pen, that shall fallaciously or captiously refute us; that shall only lay hold of our lapses, single out digressions, corollaries, or ornamental conceptions, to evidence his own in as indifferent truths. And shall only take notice of such, whose experimental and judicious knowledge shall solemnly look upon it; not only to destroy of ours, but to establish of his own; not to traduce or extenuate, but to explain and dilucidate, to add and ampliate, according to the laudable custom of the ancients in their sober promotions of learning. Unto whom notwithstanding, we shall not contentiously rejoin, or only to justify our own, but to applaud or confirm his maturer assertions; and shall confer what is in us unto his name and honour; ready to be swallowed in any worthy enlarger;—as having acquired our end, if any way, or under any name, we may obtain a work, so much desired, and yet desiderated, of truth."

                  Sir Thomas Browne [1605-1682], 'Note to the Reader', Pseudodoxia Epidemica 1646




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                  Last edited by vinteuil; 11-09-19, 20:18.

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                  • ardcarp
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11102

                    ...how incredibly liberal an attitude for his time. Not one for Pedants' Corner then.

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                    • Richard Tarleton

                      Well that was a surprise. Not sure about the shirt.

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                      • ardcarp
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11102

                        A civilised bunch. Strange that the comparatively huge student body of the LSE couldn't produce a more sparkling team.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                          A civilised bunch. Strange that the comparatively huge student body of the LSE couldn't produce a more sparkling team.
                          Both teams were a little ... erm ... slow off the mark this evening.

                          SPOILER

                          The Courtauld team took quite some time getting into any kind of stride - and their total ignorance of anything scientific will make them a pushover in later rounds when they meet with more able competition than they faced this evening.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • ardcarp
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11102

                            Agreed. Was the answer -1 an inspired guess?

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                            • Boilk
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 976

                              We were thankfully spared Andrew Lloyd Webber's Variations on a theme of Paganini which I was almost sure would be one of the answers in the Paganini-themed music bonuses.

                              I think one chap showed some musical awareness that Lutoslawski had done a version when he proffered "Lukovski" ...but unluckily the answer was Liszt!

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                                Agreed. Was the answer -1 an inspired guess?
                                I suspect so, from his air-punching when he heard he'd got the correct answer.

                                Originally posted by Boilk View Post
                                I think one chap showed some musical awareness that Lutoslawski had done a version when he proffered "Lukovski" ...but unluckily the answer was Liszt!
                                - and it did sound rather like the Lutoslawski version (as confirmed by the broadcast of that version on Essential Classics earlier today).
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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