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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30286

    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
    With less than 3 hours of music a day, more often than not in the '50s, I reckon they would be hppy to put up with the current weaknesses, given that we get way more music each day.
    Quantity so much better than quality. Radio 3 has lost its intellectual and critical perspective: it's another brand of entertainment for those who like this brand of entertainment.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • JimD
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 267

      OT but 'the Third Programme Defence Society'! Needed even then?

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      • JimD
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 267

        Oh sorry...just realized I'd missed the point.

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        • LMcD
          Full Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 8467

          Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
          When Cali posted this photo on a previous occasion I was not the only one to observe that just about everyone in the photo was smoking but that RVW appeared to be inserting his pipe into the wrong orifice.
          Does anybody happen to know who any of the other people in the photo are?

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
            Does anybody happen to know who any of the other people in the photo are?
            The cigarette smoker is Laurence Olivier, others are Historian Peter Laslett, Teacher Peter Needs, and Barrister Paul Henry Lawrence Sieghart - but which is which, I know not. Had the photo not cropped him off, Michael Tippett would have been in view, too.



            Takne in RVW's sitting room, it says.
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12824

              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              The cigarette smoker is Laurence Olivier, others are Historian Peter Laslett, Teacher Peter Needs, and Barrister Paul Henry Lawrence Sieghart - but which is which, I know not. Had the photo not cropped him off, Michael Tippett would have been in view, too.



              Takne in RVW's sitting room, it says.
              .


              ... the men (all men, natch) in suits and ties, some smoking; pleased to see glasses of wine (?) on the table too. Them were the days....


              .

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30286

                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                The cigarette smoker is Laurence Olivier, others are Historian Peter Laslett, Teacher Peter Needs, and Barrister Paul Henry Lawrence Sieghart - but which is which, I know not. Had the photo not cropped him off, Michael Tippett would have been in view, too.
                Yes, the Magnificent Seven, who by this time had changed their name to the Sound Broadcasting Society, are:

                Michael Tippett, Paul Sieghart, Peter Laslett, Roy Walker, Laurence Olivier, Peter Needs, RVW.

                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Richard Tarleton

                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  The cigarette smoker is Laurence Olivier, others are Historian Peter Laslett, Teacher Peter Needs, and Barrister Paul Henry Lawrence Sieghart - but which is which, I know not. Had the photo not cropped him off, Michael Tippett would have been in view, too.



                  Takne in RVW's sitting room, it says.
                  The image appears in The Envy of the World.....L to R, Tippett, Sieghart, Laslett, Roy Walker, Olivier, Needs, RVW. Who Walker is, no idea, he doesn't appear in the index. Needs, it sems, was the one who kicked the whole thing off (pp 171-2). But there still wasn't a chair for him.

                  ff - snap!

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30286

                    Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                    The image appears in The Envy of the World
                    From which I photographed the earlier detail, hence the fold down the middle. The lower picture, left of the bookcase, isn't quite straight, I see …
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Richard Tarleton

                      All I can think about Needs is, whilst his role in kicking the thing off meant he earned a place in the room, he wasn't important enough to have a seat at the table. Poor bloke does look a bit uncomfortable - his pose attentive, deferential.....And had Olivier given RVW a black eye earlier?

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30286

                        Roy Walker was apparently the radio drama critic for the Listener (among other things no doubt), but that was his interest in the Third Programme, I assume.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • LMcD
                          Full Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8467

                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          The cigarette smoker is Laurence Olivier, others are Historian Peter Laslett, Teacher Peter Needs, and Barrister Paul Henry Lawrence Sieghart - but which is which, I know not. Had the photo not cropped him off, Michael Tippett would have been in view, too.



                          Takne in RVW's sitting room, it says.
                          Thanks to all who provided names. Roy Walker reminds me a little of Tony Benn (or vice versa!)

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30286

                            Just continuing with this line for the moment:

                            Mr Kenneth Robinson , St Pancras North:

                            Is the assistant Postmaster-General aware that the deputation included Mr. T. S. Eliot, Dr. Vaughan Williams, and Sir Laurence Olivier and reflected the very serious anxiety felt among serious listeners to sound broadcasting? Did not the suggestions made by the deputation merit more than the somewhat offhand reply sent by the Chairman of the B.B.C. Governors? Could not the Postmaster-General at least give an assurance that the B.B.C. will not be forced on grounds of economy to depart from the very high standard of sound broadcasting that has been set in the past?

                            […]

                            Mr Kenneth Thompson , Liverpool, Walton:

                            My right hon. Friend did me the honour of asking me to reply for him. I think it is within his province to decide that sort of thing, and that it is not for outside interests at all. The fact is that these matters are very properly left to the B.B.C. to decide, and that, unless there is any major departure from general policy by the B.B.C., we must leave it where it is.

                            Plus ça change

                            Last edited by french frank; 02-03-19, 11:06.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • ardcarp
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11102

                              Tonight's contest ended annoyingly with two classical music questions chopped off by the gong. We shall never know......

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                              • LMcD
                                Full Member
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 8467

                                Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                                Tonight's contest ended annoyingly with two classical music questions chopped off by the gong. We shall never know......
                                Perhaps one of the answers would have been Schubert's 8th symphony.

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