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  • LHC
    Full Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1557

    Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
    I regard 15 as humiliatingly low and I am on the point of writing to the producers re the lack of literature and classical music questions . It is nothing to brag about - I just have a retentive memory and spent my youth reading the Guinness book of records and the Book of Lists and have spent virtually the entire lockdown reading Unfortunately under competition the pressure gets to me . My only pub quiz triumph was when Mike the Irish Poly lecturer went on holiday after beating me week after week. I got to a tie break with another regular . When the question started “ What opera by Wagner ....”” I knew the gods were smiling .
    In 2002 I was a member of a team at a pub quiz held at Imperial College. The team I was on came second, losing out by only a couple of points to the team that came first. We thought that they had looked familiar, and when chatting to the winning team afterwards we discovered that three of them had been members of the Imperial College team that had won University Challenge the year before. We were inordinately proud of coming so close to them, although I must admit the questions were definitely pub quiz level, rather than University Challenge level.

    Like others I thought the questions this week were significantly tougher than in the previous rounds, but they have always been more difficult in the semi-finals and final, so this was not unexpected. I did get a few right, probably around 8 or 9, but the questions on science and geography were completely beyond me.
    "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
    Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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    • Ein Heldenleben
      Full Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 6779

      Originally posted by LHC View Post
      In 2002 I was a member of a team at a pub quiz held at Imperial College. The team I was on came second, losing out by only a couple of points to the team that came first. We thought that they had looked familiar, and when chatting to the winning team afterwards we discovered that three of them had been members of the Imperial College team that had won University Challenge the year before. We were inordinately proud of coming so close to them, although I must admit the questions were definitely pub quiz level, rather than University Challenge level.

      Like others I thought the questions this week were significantly tougher than in the previous rounds, but they have always been more difficult in the semi-finals and final, so this was not unexpected. I did get a few right, probably around 8 or 9, but the questions on science and geography were completely beyond me.
      One thing to bear in mind when looking at the show is that they edit out the starter questions they can’t answer ( quite a few apparently ) and they can spend a lot of time conferring - again edited down...Also is it just me but are the panellists (unlike policemen) getting older ?

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      • LHC
        Full Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1557

        Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
        One thing to bear in mind when looking at the show is that they edit out the starter questions they can’t answer ( quite a few apparently ) and they can spend a lot of time conferring - again edited down...Also is it just me but are the panellists (unlike policemen) getting older ?
        Yes, I think all the teams now include more Masters and PhD students, whereas the competition used to be mainly the preserve of undergraduates. Mind you none of them can match the OU team from 1997. One of their contestants was 73 years old, and they got as far as the final!
        "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
        Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26536

          Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
          One thing to bear in mind when looking at the show is that they edit out the starter questions they can’t answer ( quite a few apparently )...
          I did not know that... (they leave a few in - especially this week! - for the purposes of verisimilitude...)
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • gurnemanz
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7387

            Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
            One thing to bear in mind when looking at the show is that they edit out the starter questions they can’t answer ( quite a few apparently ) and they can spend a lot of time conferring - again edited down...Also is it just me but are the panellists (unlike policemen) getting older ?
            Starters and bonus questions are linked so it is sometimes said that bonuses will be deferrred to the next correctly answered starter. I've not really thought this through but might this not get complicated with quite a few orphaned bonuses that don't get used at all. Maybe saved for another quiz.

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            • Ein Heldenleben
              Full Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 6779

              Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
              I did not know that... (they leave a few in - especially this week! - for the purposes of verisimilitude...)
              It’s what a contestant reported in a Guardian piece . There are also disputes over the correct answer . Don’t know about you but I wouldn’t want to pick an argument with Paxo...

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              • Ein Heldenleben
                Full Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 6779

                Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                Starters and bonus questions are linked so it is sometimes said that bonuses will be deferrred to the next correctly answered starter. I've not really thought this through but might this not get complicated with quite a few orphaned bonuses that don't get used at all. Maybe saved for another quiz.
                One thing I noticed this week was a literature starter question that I managed to get ( or not get ) was then followed up with a series of apparently undeferred bonuses on a completely different , usually impenetrable , science subject. That is a very worrying new departure . I am still smarting at answering Shelley to the Hyperion author question . I’ve read the poem , I think I once wrote an essay on it and I couldn’t remember Keats ....

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22120

                  Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                  One thing to bear in mind when looking at the show is that they edit out the starter questions they can’t answer ( quite a few apparently ) and they can spend a lot of time conferring - again edited down...Also is it just me but are the panellists (unlike policemen) getting older ?
                  Yes, I seem to remember in Bamber’s day it was very much an undegraduate competition.

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                  • ardcarp
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11102

                    It was. And didn't some teams 'play him up' a bit?

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                    • cloughie
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22120

                      Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                      It was. And didn't some teams 'play him up' a bit?
                      ...and he had to hurry them!

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                      • Ein Heldenleben
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 6779

                        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                        Yes, I seem to remember in Bamber’s day it was very much an undegraduate competition.
                        Happy days - loads of arts questions , little on maths , subatomic particles , dna or the periodic table.

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                        • Pulcinella
                          Host
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 10927

                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          Yes, I seem to remember in Bamber’s day it was very much an unde[r]graduate competition.
                          As was the annual Oxford–Cambridge Boat race, I imagine.

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                          • Pulcinella
                            Host
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 10927

                            From today's Guardian:

                            Ahead of the grand final of the brain-squeezing series next Monday, test your mental mettle with 15 questions set by the show’s quizmasters.

                            Ahead of the grand final of the brain-squeezing series next Monday, test your mental mettle with 15 questions set by the show’s quizmasters

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                            • ardcarp
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11102

                              The wrong answer to one of the science questions is Laplace. However, he was quite a guy and is the subject of next week's In Our Time. The science-based episodes are usually rather good, as Melvyn (not being a scientist) is happy to let the experts get on with it! I do wish, by the way, IOT would do a programme on Thomas Young, polymath and subject of a recent book, The Last Man who knew Everything by Andrew Robinson.

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                              • LHC
                                Full Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1557

                                Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                                From today's Guardian:

                                Ahead of the grand final of the brain-squeezing series next Monday, test your mental mettle with 15 questions set by the show’s quizmasters.

                                https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...challenge-quiz
                                I was going to post the same thing, but you beat me to it. I must say, having managed to score 14 (admittedly with some educated guesses), I didn’t think it was anything like as hard as the real UC questions.
                                "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                                Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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