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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30456

    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    Ah, yes, but Hamelin town in Brunswick is pronounced (and spelt) 'Hameln'. My father made that mistake when he tried to book a train ticket to that town in 1958.
    Yes, though I was quoting Browning's po-em. I could have gone on:

    The river Weser, deep and wide,
    Washes its walls on the southern side.
    When begins my ditty,
    Almost five hundred years ago …
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 20572

      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      Yes, though I was quoting Browning's po-em. I could have gone on:

      I remember it well. My father had a filmstrip to go with the poem, which he operated as my mother read it out loud. I think I may still have that filmstrip in the loft.

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      • gurnemanz
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7405

        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        Ah, yes, but Hamelin town in Brunswick is pronounced (and spelt) 'Hameln'. My father made that mistake when he tried to book a train ticket to that town in 1958.
        I would have thought that Hameln isn't in Brunswick (Braunschweig). They are separate towns in Niedersachsen.

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
          I would have thought that Hameln isn't in Brunswick (Braunschweig). They are separate towns in Niedersachsen.
          Robert Browning doesn't agree:

          Hamelin Town’s in Brunswick,
          By famous Hanover City...

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          • Roehre

            Originally posted by jean View Post
            ...and as Hannover is the capital of Niedersachsen

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            • gurnemanz
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7405

              Originally posted by jean View Post
              Sorry about my inadequate statement. What I wrote has been true only since 1945. As a penance I have done some research. In 1814 after the Congress of Vienna the Herzogtum (Dukedom) of Braunschweig succeeded the Fürstentum (principality) of Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel which traced it roots back 1235. (Hameln was obviously part of its territory). After the November Revolution in 1918, during which it was a Socialist Republic, it became the Freistaat Braunschweig which it remained until Hitler took over.

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26572

                Interesting one tonight - four women v. four foreigners...

                ...and an "M.D. in Sphincter Preservation" thrown in for good measure!



                Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                You couldn't make it up
                How true again!

                (Then again, which of isn't, in our own way, working towards that qualification as far as humanly possible...? )
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163



                  And did I hear correctly - there was a PhD student of English Literature (who didn't recognize Wuthering Heights, by-the-by) who was researching "The Lapdog"?!
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26572

                    You did hear correctly.

                    Sphincters and Lapdogs...

                    These are murky waters, Watson
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • gurnemanz
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7405

                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      You did hear correctly.

                      Sphincters and Lapdogs...

                      These are murky waters, Watson
                      I was rooting that ladies team and not just because of sphincters and lapdogs, about which I would have happily heard more.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37814

                        Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                        sphincters
                        It won't be long before ISIS starts destroying those, too, I tell yer.

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26572

                          The ironically cute 'good byes' from both teams were amusing. Cracked Paxo up anyway.
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • Richard Tarleton

                            I found the Nuffield team's protracted internal debates annoying - not sure if it was gamesmanship, but I was shouting at them to get a move on. Hope the other team returns as a high scoring loser.

                            I missed the intros. A few mentions of lapdogs here - Cantos 1,3......

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                            • vinteuil
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12936

                              Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post

                              I missed the intros. A few mentions of lapdogs here - Cantos 1,3......
                              ... John Sutherland pointed out the problem of the gender of the pug in Mansfield Park.

                              And see also -





                              Free Online Library: "Hearty fow children": the Penrhyns, pugs, and Mansfield Park.(Miscellany) by "Persuasions: The Jane Austen Journal"; History Literature, writing, book reviews Novelists Works Pugs (Dogs) Portrayals


                              …they are very affectionate and playful, and bear the confinement of the house better than many other breeds, racing over the carpets in their play as freely as others do over the turf. For t…







                              .
                              Last edited by vinteuil; 06-10-15, 08:34.

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                              • mercia
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8920

                                would Dora Copperfield's Jip count as a lapdog ? Then there's Flush of course but perhaps that wasn't a lapdog either
                                Last edited by mercia; 06-10-15, 12:27.

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