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  • DracoM
    Host
    • Mar 2007
    • 13000

    Amol Rajan has a major reputation as a far-too-fast, machine-gun style presenter.
    I raised this very point a few days ago BEFORE his first appearance at the desk

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    • LHC
      Full Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 1572

      I see that Imperial College's defence of their title has been launched in impressive fashion, with them scoring a mere 310 points in the first round. They do seem to have fashioned a cast iron winning strategy over the last five years.

      Poor Manchester had no response and looked increasingly despondent as the episode progressed
      "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
      Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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      • Dance Band Spiv
        Full Member
        • May 2024
        • 10

        University Challenge 25.11.2024

        Last night's edition ended with scores tied; the rules of the tie-break were explained (as I understood them), that if a team answered incorrectly then 5 points would be deducted and the other team won automatically. The question was asked and Durham buzzed first, but their answer was incorrect; however, instead of deducting points and awarding the win to the other team, Amol offered SOAS a chance to answer the same question, which they also got wrong. He then asked a second question and this time SOAS buzzed first but incorrectly, 5 points were deducted from their score immediately and the match awarded to Durham! I am baffled, particularly as the show is pre-recorded, allowing any errors to be corrected ahead of transmission. To their credit, SOAS didn't challenge or complain ...

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        • AuntDaisy
          Host
          • Jun 2018
          • 1814

          Originally posted by Dance Band Spiv View Post
          University Challenge 25.11.2024

          Last night's edition ended with scores tied; the rules of the tie-break were explained (as I understood them), that if a team answered incorrectly then 5 points would be deducted and the other team won automatically. The question was asked and Durham buzzed first, but their answer was incorrect; however, instead of deducting points and awarding the win to the other team, Amol offered SOAS a chance to answer the same question, which they also got wrong. He then asked a second question and this time SOAS buzzed first but incorrectly, 5 points were deducted from their score immediately and the match awarded to Durham! I am baffled, particularly as the show is pre-recorded, allowing any errors to be corrected ahead of transmission. To their credit, SOAS didn't challenge or complain ...
          For the tie-break question(s), I think they had to interrupt and be wrong to lose 5 points & the game...
          Poor old Lambert & the llama.

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          • gurnemanz
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7429

            Originally posted by Dance Band Spiv View Post
            University Challenge 25.11.2024

            Last night's edition ended with scores tied; the rules of the tie-break were explained (as I understood them), that if a team answered incorrectly then 5 points would be deducted and the other team won automatically. The question was asked and Durham buzzed first, but their answer was incorrect; however, instead of deducting points and awarding the win to the other team, Amol offered SOAS a chance to answer the same question, which they also got wrong. He then asked a second question and this time SOAS buzzed first but incorrectly, 5 points were deducted from their score immediately and the match awarded to Durham! I am baffled, particularly as the show is pre-recorded, allowing any errors to be corrected ahead of transmission. To their credit, SOAS didn't challenge or complain ...
            I am ex-Durham and potentially biased but I think all was OK. Durham got the first tiebreak starter wrong, but didn't interrupt, so didn't lose 5 points. SOAS definitely did interrupt the second starter question with an incorrect answer, so did lose 5 points and therefore the whole contest.

            (PS A pedant writes: Amol Rajan mispronounced guanaco, stressing the first syllable - nothing to do with bird droppings - when it should be guanAco. We did a tour of Patagonia - one of our best holidays, incidentally - and saw quite a few of them.

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            • Ein Heldenleben
              Full Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 7042

              I’m still reeling at the Eng Lit student who thought Lady Windermere’s Fan and The Importance of being Earnest were single act tragedies written by Oscar Wilde …
              and as for the music question being about pop music used on the C4 programme Peep Show words fail me .
              They got those largely right of course.

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              • johncorrigan
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 10444

                One of the best late comebacks I've seen in a long time - I thought Durham were down and out with a couple of minutes to go, but the guy on the end next to the captain answered in a never-say-die kind of way - very entertaining contest. I wasn't sure I had ever seen a tie-break on UC before.

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                • Sir Velo
                  Full Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 3277

                  Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                  I’m still reeling at the Eng Lit student who thought Lady Windermere’s Fan and The Importance of being Earnest were single act tragedies written by Oscar Wilde …
                  Just be thankful they got the author right!

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                  • gurnemanz
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7429

                    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                    I’m still reeling at the Eng Lit student who thought Lady Windermere’s Fan and The Importance of being Earnest were single act tragedies written by Oscar Wilde …
                    and as for the music question being about pop music used on the C4 programme Peep Show words fail me .
                    They got those largely right of course.
                    ... and as far as I remember, Amol said it was a one-word title. Sometimes contestants just say anything as an answer without really thinking. She was fairly sound on other literature questions.

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                    • LHC
                      Full Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1572

                      Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                      I’m still reeling at the Eng Lit student who thought Lady Windermere’s Fan and The Importance of being Earnest were single act tragedies written by Oscar Wilde …
                      and as for the music question being about pop music used on the C4 programme Peep Show words fail me .
                      They got those largely right of course.
                      It was two students rather than one; the first was from SOAS who interrupted almost immediately Wilde's name was mentioned with The Importance of Being Earnest. The Eng Lit student from Durham then came in with Lady Windermere's Fan (by this stage, as well as being informed it was a one Act play in French, we had also been told it was about a princess from Judea).

                      It was pretty clear that they were both just coming up with Oscar Wilde plays they'd heard of and were ignoring or hadn't registered the key points about it being a one Act play set in Judea and written in French. Its possible as well that, not being opera buffs, they weren't aware that Wilde had written a setting of Salome.
                      "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                      Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                      • LHC
                        Full Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1572

                        Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                        One of the best late comebacks I've seen in a long time - I thought Durham were down and out with a couple of minutes to go, but the guy on the end next to the captain answered in a never-say-die kind of way - very entertaining contest. I wasn't sure I had ever seen a tie-break on UC before.
                        There have been a few tie breaks, but its true they are not very common. In common with normal starter questions, the team is only deducted five points if they interrupt before the question has been finished.
                        "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                        Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                        • Dance Band Spiv
                          Full Member
                          • May 2024
                          • 10

                          Many thanks, one and all, for enlightening me as to the intricacies of the tie-break rules!

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                          • Ein Heldenleben
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 7042

                            Originally posted by LHC View Post

                            It was two students rather than one; the first was from SOAS who interrupted almost immediately Wilde's name was mentioned with The Importance of Being Earnest. The Eng Lit student from Durham then came in with Lady Windermere's Fan (by this stage, as well as being informed it was a one Act play in French, we had also been told it was about a princess from Judea).

                            It was pretty clear that they were both just coming up with Oscar Wilde plays they'd heard of and were ignoring or hadn't registered the key points about it being a one Act play set in Judea and written in French. Its possible as well that, not being opera buffs, they weren't aware that Wilde had written a setting of Salome.
                            You’re quite right . It was worse than I remembered. I suppose though a fan would come in useful in the heat of the Middle East. Have to say I burst out laughing at that point.

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                            • Master Jacques
                              Full Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 2018

                              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                              You’re quite right . It was worse than I remembered. I suppose though a fan would come in useful in the heat of the Middle East. Have to say I burst out laughing at that point.
                              Just as well they weren't asking which Oscar Wilde play is about a fancy biscuit that has fallen onto the floor and become inedible.

                              Clue 2: turned into an opera by various composers, including Zemlinsky.

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                              • Sir Velo
                                Full Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 3277

                                Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
                                Just as well they weren't asking which Oscar Wilde play is about a fancy biscuit that has fallen onto the floor and become inedible.
                                I suppose we can take a crumb of comfort from that.

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