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By the magic known as re-formatting, I've managed to reduce it to just five (very long) pages
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
You cad, sir. You took the very words out of my mouth!
It is literally unbelievable that this thread has gone to 18 pages.
Only 9 pages for me. I have mine set at 20 per page.
I started this thread as a genuine question as to whether one of the mainstays of our daily lives was disappearing. I expected a few desultory responses before it petered out not the outbreak of thermo-nuclear war. Frankly, I wonder how Mr GG and ahinton have so much time to spare on here in fruitless argument. Perhaps a short period of silence may be most welcome.
In stark contrast, I started a thread to mark the 100th anniversary of the premiere of Schoenberg's Gurrelieder. It seemed a good opportunity to reappraise the work a century on especially in the light of how music was to be shaken to its foundations just a few months later in Paris. A good discussion could have been had. It was hard work to get any response at all and this on a forum dedicated to classical music (mostly). Something isn't right somewhere...
"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
In stark contrast, I started a thread to mark the 100th anniversary of the premiere of Schoenberg's Gurrelieder. It seemed a good opportunity to reappraise the work a century on especially in the light of how music was to be shaken to its foundations just a few months later in Paris. A good discussion could have been had. It was hard work to get any response at all and this on a forum dedicated to classical music (mostly). Something isn't right somewhere...
I've often thought the same. Apart from BaL and the Proms, most discussions seem to be about non-musical things.
In stark contrast, I started a thread to mark the 100th anniversary of the premiere of Schoenberg's Gurrelieder. It seemed a good opportunity to reappraise the work a century on especially in the light of how music was to be shaken to its foundations just a few months later in Paris. A good discussion could have been had. It was hard work to get any response at all and this on a forum dedicated to classical music (mostly). Something isn't right somewhere...
It's a good point.
There are plenty of music-based threads that do produce lengthy and lively debate, though (Mahler 6).
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
Frankly, I wonder how Mr GG and ahinton have so much time to spare on here in fruitless argument.
Be fair - it's not just Mr GG who's been engaged in fruitless argument with ahinton - even usually calm French Frank has shown signs of exasperation with him
There are plenty of music-based threads that do produce lengthy and lively debate, though (Mahler 6).
Yes, that's very true, but it is so dismaying to have virtually every thread on P3 hi-jacked by the usual suspects with plenty of time on their hands and not apparently interested in the views of others. There is no discussion.
"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
Only 9 pages for me. I have mine set at 20 per page.
I started this thread as a genuine question as to whether one of the mainstays of our daily lives was disappearing. I expected a few desultory responses before it petered out not the outbreak of thermo-nuclear war. Frankly, I wonder how Mr GG and ahinton have so much time to spare on here in fruitless argument. Perhaps a short period of silence may be most welcome.
In stark contrast, I started a thread to mark the 100th anniversary of the premiere of Schoenberg's Gurrelieder. It seemed a good opportunity to reappraise the work a century on especially in the light of how music was to be shaken to its foundations just a few months later in Paris. A good discussion could have been had. It was hard work to get any response at all and this on a forum dedicated to classical music (mostly). Something isn't right somewhere...
My thoughts exactly.
I don't use cheques any more(come to think of it I've not been into a bank for ages)and I am ashamed to say I've never heard Gurrelieder.
That is all.
I'm not sure about the lack of response on music threads, although it is disappointing if there is a poor response to a music thread, as in the case of Gurrelieder.
I often post one of my questions about performances, works, etc, and get lots of interesting and helpful responses. (Liszt tone poems, for example).
We all have opinions about banks, and I suspect that if most of us/we MBers want to sound off/get it off our chest, this is the place we do it.
Other specialist forums are the same. On the Southampton Footy Fans site, general topics are as popular as football threads.
I enjoy the banter on here, but I come to this board for music , and that is the reason I use the board.
I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
My thoughts exactly.
I don't use cheques any more(come to think of it I've not been into a bank for ages)and I am ashamed to say I've never heard Gurrelieder.
That is all.
Then in the former case you are fortunate and sensible (only in my view, of course) but in the latter you are very fortunate indeed - because you have the most wonderful experience awaiting you! Lose no time; get to listen to it as soon as you are able! Quite how Schönberg managed to develop an orchestral skill that put him into the same league as Mahler and Strauss at their very best - especially at so young an age - I have no idea, but he did - and there's much more to appreciate besides that in this monumental and still, I think, underappreciated work.
Then in the former case you are fortunate and sensible (only in my view, of course) but in the latter you are very fortunate indeed - because you have the most wonderful experience awaiting you! Lose no time; get to listen to it as soon as you are able! Quite how Schönberg managed to develop an orchestral skill that put him into the same league as Mahler and Strauss at their very best - especially at so young an age - I have no idea, but he did - and there's much more to appreciate besides that in this monumental and still, I think, underappreciated work.
This sort of response would have been perfect for the relevant thread, ahinton, and might well have ensured it had legs before it sank without trace.
"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
Only 9 pages for me. I have mine set at 20 per page.
I started this thread as a genuine question as to whether one of the mainstays of our daily lives was disappearing. I expected a few desultory responses before it petered out not the outbreak of thermo-nuclear war. Frankly, I wonder how Mr GG and ahinton have so much time to spare on here in fruitless argument. Perhaps a short period of silence may be most welcome.
I cannot speak for MrGG but my posts on this and other subjects have taken very little time, believe me; in fact I probably ought perhaps to try to type a little more slowly and then the risk of the kind of silly typos of which I'm all too frequently guilty might reduce appreciably!
In stark contrast, I started a thread to mark the 100th anniversary of the premiere of Schoenberg's Gurrelieder. It seemed a good opportunity to reappraise the work a century on especially in the light of how music was to be shaken to its foundations just a few months later in Paris. A good discussion could have been had. It was hard work to get any response at all and this on a forum dedicated to classical music (mostly). Something isn't right somewhere...
I've already made a very brief remark about this astonishing work, studying the full score of which is something that can never be completed (and I consider myself to be most fortunate in having one).
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