Charlies dodgy influence strikes again

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  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
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    Charlies dodgy influence strikes again

    Foundation for Integrated Medicine persuaded officials to neuter advice about homeopathy on the NHS Choices patient website


  • amateur51

    #2
    How completely depressing - what a baleful influence he is on contemporary life and any hopes that we might have of living in a mature democracy

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    • Word
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      • Jan 2011
      • 132

      #3
      nice headline.

      It may be old but it's still v. funny: Mitchell and Webb.

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      • MrGongGong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #4
        Originally posted by Word View Post
        nice headline.

        It may be old but it's still v. funny: Mitchell and Webb.
        Classic thanks

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        • amateur51

          #5
          Originally posted by Word View Post
          nice headline.

          It may be old but it's still v. funny: Mitchell and Webb.

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          • Resurrection Man

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            • amateur51

              #7
              Originally posted by Resurrection Man View Post
              Away with ye to Crystal Palace!

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              • teamsaint
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                • Nov 2010
                • 25225

                #8
                Its pretty important to ask questions about all the factors that go to make up the kind of advice contained in this kind of guidance to NHS patients.
                Charles has no place in this IMO, but there are other interest groups whose power and influence seems never to be questioned.
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • MrGongGong
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  #9
                  IF you look at the NHS choices web



                  you see how much this nonsense is allowed to continue
                  If I go to my doctor or consult the NHS online I certainly don't expect them to suggest I get a lucky rabbits foot to prevent me getting Malaria

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                  • teamsaint
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25225

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    IF you look at the NHS choices web



                    you see how much this nonsense is allowed to continue
                    If I go to my doctor or consult the NHS online I certainly don't expect them to suggest I get a lucky rabbits foot to prevent me getting Malaria
                    do you think that is likely to happen?

                    Should the NHS not be in the business of giving its patients the best and widest choice of treatments available?
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • Flosshilde
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7988

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Word View Post
                      nice headline.

                      It may be old but it's still v. funny: Mitchell and Webb.
                      Wonderful!

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                      • MrGongGong
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        #12
                        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                        do you think that is likely to happen?

                        Should the NHS not be in the business of giving its patients the best and widest choice of treatments available?
                        Homeopathy is a fraud
                        it doesn't work and is dangerous as it fools people into thinking that they can cure serious illness with sugar pills
                        if idiots want to believe in this crap thats up to them BUT the NHS shouldn't have anything to do with it IMV

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                        • teamsaint
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25225

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                          Homeopathy is a fraud
                          it doesn't work and is dangerous as it fools people into thinking that they can cure serious illness with sugar pills
                          if idiots want to believe in this crap thats up to them BUT the NHS shouldn't have anything to do with it IMV
                          Lots of people disagree with you. There is an awful lot of conventional medicine that I have seen going on in the NHS , from personal experience, that I think fails patients in any number of ways. Conventional treatments have plenty of failings, are not always properly or appropriately applied.It doesn't mean that those treatments should just be stopped, or that they don't help return some people to health.
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • MrGongGong
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            #14
                            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                            Lots of people disagree with you. There is an awful lot of conventional medicine that I have seen going on in the NHS , from personal experience, that I think fails patients in any number of ways. Conventional treatments have plenty of failings, are not always properly or appropriately applied.It doesn't mean that those treatments should just be stopped, or that they don't help return some people to health.
                            Lots of people believe in all sorts of nonsense
                            Try James Randi or Ben Goldacre

                            Sure "conventional" treatments aren't perfect but that doesn't mean that this crap is true
                            why not have faith healing or magic crystals on the NHS ?

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                            • teamsaint
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25225

                              #15
                              I am not well versed in homeopathy. I have an open mind about it.
                              In general, we have to trust the medical profession for guidance. according to this, 400 plus GPs practice homeopathy.. Not saying they are right, but it is significant.

                              To dismiss everything except current western medical orthodoxy, much of which is informed by the agendas of the big drugs companies, is also very dangerous, IMO. (not suggesting you are doing that, BTW).
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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