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  • mirkin
    • Sep 2024

    Turn up the Music

    And turn down the announcer!

    Is it just me, or does anybody else think the volume of the Radio 3 announcers is way too high relative to the music that they play? I have actually measured this - the volume of the talking is nearly as high as the loudest passages of a symphony orchestra at full tilt!

    This means if you tune in and make the mistake of turning up to enjoy the music, you can be in for a nasty surprise when the talking starts. Conversely, if you adjust the volume when they are talking, you will barely be able to hear the quieter passages of music. What is the reason for this?

    There are exceptions to this rule - such as broadcasts from live events such as Concert at Lunchtime. But for the majority of programming this seems to be true. I think the solution would be to simply turn down the announcer 5db relative to the Music.

    I have complained to the BBC about this, but all I received was a 'clever' automatically generated reply that tried to give the impression that someone had actually read it. The bottom line was my carefully constructed complaint is now 'held in the Audience Log which is available to Radio 3 staff' ... great.

    Any thoughts?
  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 29932

    #2
    Hello, mirkin - and welcome!

    This point has been made before, so it's not your 'imagination' - but someone who's done some measurements as well might reply.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26460

      #3
      Mirkin - it's tiresome when listening in the car, which is when I notice the phenomenon most. My old dad's complained about it generally for years , but I've not really be troubled by it on my home equipment.

      There is at least one former BBC sound man about this Forum who may have interesting 'hand's on' comment.

      And yes, welcome
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20565

        #4
        Look at the listings for Radio 3 (website or Radio Times) and invariably it's the presenter whose name appears first - not the composer or performer(s). When the BBC was broadcasting a recording of Elgar's The Apostles from King's College Cambridge, the website provided us with a photograph of Katie Derham looking glamorous. That appears to be the priority.

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        • handsomefortune

          #5
          shouldn't that read 'a photograph of dj Katie Derham'?

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          • eighthobstruction
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 6406

            #6
            Originally posted by Caliban View Post


            There is at least one former BBC sound man about this Forum who may have interesting 'hand's on' comment.

            I should be very careful about anything 'hand's on' when dealing with a mirkin....
            bong ching

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            • handsomefortune

              #7
              Turn up the Music

              turn down the announcer!


              and turn OFF the news (mostly, as it's so often identical to sky, yahoo, the daily tabloids: consuming once is more than enough, especially at high volume).

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26460

                #8
                Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                I should be very careful about anything 'hand's on' when dealing with a mirkin....
                The thought had occurred, eighty, the thought had occurred... (Different spelling, though but...)
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Sir Velo
                  Full Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 3217

                  #9
                  Originally posted by handsomefortune View Post
                  and turn OFF the news

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25177

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                    absolutely.
                    It is, in any case, just some "news " that somebody you may or may not trust has decided you should be told.
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26460

                      #11
                      Originally posted by handsomefortune View Post
                      turn OFF the news
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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