Owen Patterson - an MP past his sell-by date?

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  • mercia
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    • Nov 2010
    • 8920

    #31
    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
    Yes, but it wasn't his original phrase; he was quoting, thought I cannot for the moment remember from whom.
    I remember Alan Coren saying it

    though I think he said riff-raff rather than scum
    Last edited by mercia; 10-02-13, 18:17.

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    • aka Calum Da Jazbo
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 9173

      #32
      consumers buy fruits and vegetables and meat produce flown in for all year round freshness [Waitrose does this] cheapness, taste etc .... free market we buy .... no ought about it ...if it diid not sell at the right price it would not be on the plane eh

      let us recall that centrally controlled food markets lead to famine and chronic shortages without avoiding corruption ... gangsters, gangsters, everywhere and on every side ....
      According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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      • amateur51

        #33
        Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
        consumers buy fruits and vegetables and meat produce flown in for all year round freshness [Waitrose does this] cheapness, taste etc .... free market we buy .... no ought about it ...if it diid not sell at the right price it would not be on the plane eh

        let us recall that centrally controlled food markets lead to famine and chronic shortages without avoiding corruption ... gangsters, gangsters, everywhere and on every side ....
        In a moment of 'brain-in-neutral' I popped a packet of cherry tomatoes in my basket, Canaries surely?

        Nope, I was making lunch, glanced at the packet and there quite clearly was the legend 'Senegal' If we buy them, how can we complain? I won't die without tomatoes, after all

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26574

          #34
          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
          a packet of cherry tomatoes in my basket, Canaries surely?
          They've found songbirds in tomatoes now?
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • amateur51

            #35
            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            They've found songbirds in tomatoes now?
            Canned music?

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            • Anna

              #36
              On the horsemeat thread someone mentioned asparagus from Peru. Personally I wouldn't touch it, we have glorious English asparagus in season, you gorge on it - then that's it until next year. Perhaps people should know of the damage it is doing to Peru's water supply?:

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              • jean
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7100

                #37
                I agree about the asparagus, especially after reading that article.

                But must I never eat an orange again?

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                • Anna

                  #38
                  Originally posted by jean View Post
                  I agree about the asparagus, especially after reading that article.
                  But must I never eat an orange again?
                  No, of course not jean. We cannot grow oranges (or pineapples, bananas or lemons) here, there has always been a historical trade in such fruits. The point is we grow wonderful asparagus, it's seasonal. Enjoy it in season, do not expect it all year round (and Peruvian asparagus really has no taste does it?) Surely, part of the joy of eating/cooking is to go with the seasons? Imagine importing sprouts all year long!
                  Also, quinoa - hailed as the superfood of the Incas. Now, with the increased appetite for it the poor Peruvians and Bolivians cannot afford their staple grain
                  Joanna Blythman: Ethical consumers should be aware poor Bolivians can no longer afford their staple grain, due to western demand raising prices

                  Sorry, getting on my soapbox again!!

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                  • Resurrection Man

                    #39
                    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                    Yes, but it wasn't his original phrase; he was quoting, thought I cannot for the moment remember from whom.
                    And what precisely is the point of this post other than to show everyone what a clever know-all you are. Oh, dear, my mistake. Although you claim that it was 'someone else' you can't quite remember who said it.

                    In which case, and I repeat, what is the point of this post?

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                    • Vile Consort
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 696

                      #40
                      RM, ad hominem comments are not welcome on this board. An apology is called for.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30459

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Resurrection Man View Post
                        Well, as Stephen Fry commented on one episode of QI..."Thank God for Sainsbury's. They keep the scum out of Waitrose".
                        Or the rather classier Waitrose version:

                        "Could the owner of the white B-reg Escort Cabriolet please move it from our car park to somewhere more appropriate like Tesco, Morrisons or Aldi."

                        And who could take offence at that?
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20573

                          #42
                          I love Waitrose. They have a checkout for "10 items or fewer".

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                          • jean
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7100

                            #43
                            Unnecessary hypercorrection, if you think of the 10 items as making up a single quantity rather than as individual entities.

                            After all, who ever says the journey should take ten hours or fewer? Or expects to pay £10 or fewer for something?

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                            • vinteuil
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12937

                              #44
                              Originally posted by jean View Post
                              Unnecessary hypercorrection, if you think of the 10 items as making up a single quantity rather than as individual entities.

                              After all, who ever says the journey should take ten hours or fewer? Or expects to pay £10 or fewer for something?
                              ,,, but I think the use of the word "items" does make this very specifically a matter of countables *- whereas with "ten hours or xxx", "£10 or xxxx" we are considering an amount rather than a countable list of items. So I don't think this is hypercorrection here.

                              * countability being of the essence - if you have nine items you're OK - if you have eleven you're not.

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                              • mangerton
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3346

                                #45
                                Originally posted by jean View Post
                                Unnecessary hypercorrection, if you think of the 10 items as making up a single quantity rather than as individual entities.

                                After all, who ever says the journey should take ten hours or fewer? Or expects to pay £10 or fewer for something?
                                Indeed. But then ten hours is an amount (singular) of time. £10 is an amount (singular) of money. Ten items is a number (plural) of countable and separable things or entities.

                                I think Waitrose is quite correct in this instance.

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