Gay marriage thread

[teamsaint]

Me and my mates been going to Wong Kei for years! How come you know it?!!

One of my mates is 23 stone and when he was ordering the waitress said "you too fat, order vegetables"

ROFL.

Incidentally I know somebody, from your part of the world Beefy, who can eat a complete chinese meal for four.
I don't think he takes any **** from waitresses though.

[Pabmusic]

Animals (the non-human ones) don't have souls (any fule no that), so it doesn't matter what they do

Reading this, I had a sudden recollection of that catch by Purcell that contains the repetition of "our souls" many times, almost as a background. It seems to sum up quite neatly the nature of this thing called a soul.

[MrGongGong]

the repetition of "our souls" many times,

Whereas there seem to be many of these in the vatican

[amateur51]

I hope that's not a euphemism ?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Reading this, I had a sudden recollection of that catch by Purcell that contains the repetition of "our souls" many times, almost as a background. It seems to sum up quite neatly the nature of this thing called a soul.

Now there's a PhD dissertation for someone: The Influence of Henry Purcell on The Two Ronnies!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woqfb12h4y4

[Serial_Apologist]

I do understand the Bible
though it seems that some so called "christians" seem to see it like the menu at Wong Kei (with the legendary rude staff and menu with 1,000's of dishes)

Shouldn't that be the menu with five loaves and fishes?

Or am I singing in the wong key?

[amateur51]

Me and my mates been going to Wong Kei for years! How come you know it?!!

One of my mates is 23 stone and when he was ordering the waitress said "you too fat, order vegetables"

Is that rudeness or just commendable directness?

[scottycelt]

As you say, we're now in the 21st century, so that in this instance your beloved "moral consistency and stability" is somehow not consistent or stable between 1600 and 2013. Therefore there's no way you can be sure that at some point in the next five hundred years (probably a lot sooner, I would think, once the present superannuated generation at the top is out of the way) the church won't decide that homosexuality is OK after all.

It's not my 'beloved' moral consistency and stability. It's simply a fact. Your use of sarcasm hardly demonstrates any great objectivity in the matter and can you tell me any time between 1600 and 2013 (or before) when the Catholic Church declared that homosexual practice is 'OK'.?

The chances are that any one of us who enters hasn't a snowball in hell's chance of winning the National Lottery.

Believe me, there is even much less of a chance of the Catholic Church ever sanctioning 'gay marriage', which is supposed to be the topic of this thread.

That's all I'm saying whatever 'superannuated generation is at the top'!

[scottycelt]

Whereas there seem to be many of these in the vatican

Even atheistic commies and 'ex-commies' believe in souls, it would appear ...

A report today on the Sino-Russian summit:

Mr. Putin thanked Mr. Xi for choosing Russia for his first trip abroad. Mr. Xi in turn talked about Russia and China as good friends who treat each other “with open souls.”

[MrGongGong]

Even atheistic commies and 'ex-commies' believe in souls, it would appear ...

A report today on the Sino-Russian summit:

Mr. Putin thanked Mr. Xi for choosing Russia for his first trip abroad. Mr. Xi in turn talked about Russia and China as good friends who treat each other “with open souls.”

There are "souls" and "our souls"

[Flosshilde]

I wonder if sc's insistence is a mark of desperation? - if he declares often enough that the CC won't change, then it won't. I also wonder why he is so keen that it shouldn't?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

That's because it's a (great indeed) work of fiction

I've read the Bible twice (many years ago) and yes, it is a wonderful work of literature (in the King James Authorized performing version of the draft score, particularly) but goodness, parts of it are like Moby Dick with all the the lists and tables! The bits in Leviticus that are hostile to gay men and Chinese cuisine are especially dull. (OK for lesbians, as long as they keep away from the bacon butties, it seems!)

[Flosshilde]

There are "souls" and "our souls"

And ar - but perhaps I shouldn't go there


(especially on this thread )

[Pabmusic]

I do understand the Bible
though it seems that some so called "christians" seem to see it like the menu at Wong Kei (with the legendary rude staff and menu with 1,000's of dishes)

Neat summing up. The bible is everything and anything to religious cults, who make it mean whatever they wish, or else ignore it completely. One example that I raised earlier is that the bible says nothing at all about souls going to heaven. In fact, it clearly says several times that no-one will enter heaven until the end of all things, when the dead are raised. Irenaeus, for instance, in the second century wrote (Against Heresies) that those who believed the soul goes straightaway to heaven are heretics. This is consistent with the bible, but most churches (certainly the Catholic Church) ignore this - in fact they adopt the Gnostic (or even pagan) view of souls going to heaven straightaway.

[Serial_Apologist]

I wonder if sc's insistence is a mark of desperation? - if he declares often enough that the CC won't change, then it won't. I also wonder why he is so keen that it shouldn't?

Because "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose", methinks he hopeth.