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  • Nick Armstrong
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 26525

    Agreed with ard'n'Anna - silly programme really, and the idea of getting a Hollywood defence lawyer along to claim he could get a jury verdict in Richard's favour rather misses the point - it's hardly a compelling argument for His Late Majesty's innocence...

    Buckingham with his shapeless green hat was especially ridiculous, wasn't he? In close up, he looked like a depressed Benny from Crossroads
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      One of the silliest things for me was the contention that a young king would have been such an unthinkable prospect during that period in history. Remind me, the king Edward IV, Richard III's brother, deposed; how old was he when he inherited the throne from Henry V? Oh, and was it not Richard, then Gloucester, who is held to have been charged by brother Edward with the job of organising the bumping off of poor Good King Henry VI (who by then had long since founded both Eton and King's College Cambridge, been once deposed and reinstated, and was in his 50th year) in the Tower?

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      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        Reminder, programme on RIII, 5pm this evening, C4.
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37639

          My father once told me that a Sir Richard Brackenbury, who was in charge at the Tower of London at the time of the murder of the two princes, just happened to be a family ancestor. How true that is, I have no idea, but it hardly covers the family with glory.

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26525

            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
            Reminder, programme on RIII, 5pm this evening, C4.
            It's all rather eccentric and surreal (in a good way!)

            Good on Robert Lindsay for getting Ken Dodd in there!
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37639

              Originally posted by Caliban View Post


              Good on Robert Lindsay for getting Ken Dodd in there!
              Diddee??

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26525

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                Diddee??


                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                RED rose, Bbm??!?!?!

                Off with his head!!!

                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Mary Chambers
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1963

                  I'm enjoying the way that it's all just a bit amateurish, compared with the usual big royal processions in London.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26525

                    Originally posted by Mary Chambers View Post
                    I'm enjoying the way that it's all just a bit amateurish, compared with the usual big royal processions in London.
                    They should have decided against the two panto knights in Bacofoil armour in the procession, imvho....
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • ahinton
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 16122

                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      They should have decided against the two panto knights in Bacofoil armour in the procession, imvho....
                      Or they might at least have had the imagination to have them portray Johann Christian and Carl Philipp Emanuel - er - oh, wait abit; wrong programme! sorry! Totally off the beamish there...

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                      • Phileas
                        Full Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 211

                        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                        Off topic...but here's my eclipse story. Perched on a cliff in Cornwall in August 1989 our family was disappointed that cloud was obscuring the sun....a gap appeared in the clouds and we saw it for a good two minutes.
                        I had a similar experience - I was near Perranporth.

                        I remember seeing a postman collecting mail form a postbox, apparently oblivious to events unfolding above.

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          They should have decided against the two panto knights in Bacofoil armour in the procession, imvho....
                          If they going to do a job properly, then they should do it brilliantly. All looked as though it was done on a budget. A more senior member of the Royal Family should have been there, imo. I like the service, but omg! He was a king of England for goodness sakes!!!(rant over!)
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • P. G. Tipps
                            Full Member
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2978

                            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                            If they going to do a job properly, then they should do it brilliantly. All looked as though it was done on a budget. A more senior member of the Royal Family should have been there, imo. I like the service, but omg! He was a king of England for goodness sakes!!!(rant over!)
                            C'mon Bbm, he went to war with the peace-loving Scots and we are all one United Kingdom now, aren't we ...?

                            Furthermore, he wasn't really a proper English king as he was one of those frightful pre-Reformation types, wasn't he, so no wonder our current Majesties and Highnesses kept well away!

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                            • Mary Chambers
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1963

                              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                              A more senior member of the Royal Family should have been there, imo.
                              That surprised me, too. Apparently Richard III doesn't get a good press on the royal website.

                              I objected to Channel 4 cutting away from the Cathedral service in the middle in order to have yet more chat.

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                              • Petrushka
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12242

                                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                                If they going to do a job properly, then they should do it brilliantly. All looked as though it was done on a budget. A more senior member of the Royal Family should have been there, imo. I like the service, but omg! He was a king of England for goodness sakes!!!(rant over!)
                                I can sympathise with this. We can argue all day about Richard's character but he was King when all is said and done and while I can also sympathise with Leicester's claims, he really deserved a re-burial in either Westminster Abbey or St George's Chapel at Windsor. There are some pretty unsavoury characters buried in both. As it is, Leicester should have called in the real experts at this sort of thing. It didn't help that Leicester Cathedral is relatively small; on TV it looked positively claustrophobic and not much bigger than our local Parish Church.
                                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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