Richard the Third

[Gordon]

....... so there was no custom for the Dukes of York to be buried in York itself.

Was there ANY Plantgenet at all ever buried at York? Being a bit curious I had a google and came up with this:

http://www.unofficialroyalty.com/royal-burial-sites/british-royal-burial-sites/plantagenet-burial-sites/

unless my eyesight is failing me it seems no Plantagenet was buried at York. His forebears and relatives are buried all over the place. The only claim York may have is through RIII's following in the North and his home in Middleham.

Another curiosity: I thought HMQ had refused permission to dig up the "Princes in the Tower" but it seems that their alledged remains are in a sacophagus in Westminster Abbey having been put there in the 1670s at the request of Charles II. I never knew that, I thought they were still under the Tower somewhere!!

[french frank]

Was there ANY Plantgenet at all ever buried at York?

Not sure, the immediately previous Dukes of York buried at Fotheringhay, Northants, and Kings Langley, Herts (as they wished). If Richard had expressed a wish (as is claimed) it might well have been Fotheringhay.

[amateur51]

The stringing out of this affair bears all the hallmarks of an Archers storyline

[Gordon]

Leicester is more or less half way between York [112] and Gloucester [209]?

[MrGongGong]

The stringing out of this affair bears all the hallmarks of an Archers storyline

oooooooo nooooooooooo Bury him in Darrington

[Gordon]

The stringing out of this affair bears all the hallmarks of an Archers storyline

Can you imagine the Grundy's getting hold of the theme park? Mock battles, abducted Princes the lot.

[Gordon]

oooooooo nooooooooooo Bury him in Darrington

Surely Felpersham Abbey?

[french frank]

Was there ANY Plantgenet at all ever buried at York?

Anyway ... the Plantagenet dynasty didn't really have any strong connection with York at all, until they divided into the Houses of York and Lancaster pretty late on in their history. The fact that Richard was a Plantagenet is irrelevant to the debate. I can't see that with the later creation of York the members had a very strong connection with the city. Probably, as now, the granting of Royal titles was fairly arbitrary - traditional but arbitrary.

[Flosshilde]

I don't think he was ever Duke of York, Bbm. He wouldn't have inherited his father's title as he wasn't the eldest son (Edward succeeded to the title, briefly before he became Edward IV). Richard was Duke of Gloucester. His father, the Duke of York, was buried in Pontefract, not York. And his brother was buried in Windsor, so there was no custom for the Dukes of York to be buried in York itself.

Presumably the present D of Y will be bunkered rather than buried.

[BBMmk2]

Well, it looks like Foreringhay Abbey looks like a good bet. Or Westminster

[LeMartinPecheur]

I was thinking of a more literal application Solomon's solution - it would reflect the medieval trade in relics. Or perhaps the practice of a saint having several skeletons - St Valentine (or the ex-saint) has three bodies, one of which is in Glasgow.

A variant of the old philosophers' 'Theseus's ship' problem?

[ahinton]

Surely Felpersham Abbey?

It's surely tiresome enough that this not quite every day story of so-called country folk (whoever they may be) invades Radio 4 almost daily with its BBC Brummerset accents and interminable story lines (to which am51 refers above) without it also being encouregaed to cross-fertilise like some GM crop thereby infecting a forum devoted to RADIO THREE?!...

[MrGongGong]

It's surely tiresome enough that this not quite every day story of so-called country folk (whoever they may be) invades Radio 4 almost daily with its BBC Brummerset accents and interminable story lines (to which am51 refers above) without it also being encouregaed to cross-fertilise like some GM crop thereby infecting a forum devoted to RADIO THREE?!...

You Nelson Gabriel and I claim my £100

[jean]

As I never listen I didn't know what you were talking about until I looked it up:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/archers/wallpaper/borsetshire_1024.shtml

[french frank]

Anyway, the more I think about it, the more Fotheringhay (Richard's birthplace and home to successive Dukes of York) would have been appropriate (I think it was the D o Y who was killed at Agincourt who was buried there). But, failing the small church in Fotheringhay, perhaps the nearby large cathedral - Leicester?