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  • Flosshilde
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7988

    The report is quite clear that there are differences in the ceremony for a re-burial, with different prayers, but that there are also some similarities - eg some of the prayers are the same as for a burial. So it's quite possible that some of the music - eg a requiem mass - would be the same. Unless there's anything in a requiem that refers specifically to a first burial?

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30257

      Originally posted by jean View Post
      Ah, but that's the original burial - this will be a re-burial.
      You mean it might say, 'Sorry to have disturbed you. Hope your rest will be peaceful now'?
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        Has anybody seen a text for a re-burial from the time of Richard III?
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          You mean it might say, 'Sorry to have disturbed you. Hope your rest will be peaceful now'?
          No, I meant something more like 'You'll have spent such a long time in Purgatory now that I think we could assume you've actually made it to Heaven and we don't need to pray for the repose of your soul any more.'

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          • Flosshilde
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7988

            I think the prayers for a reburial mentioned in the article do say something like that.

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30257

              Finally got an email (from Capita - who else?):

              "I understand you felt the article about Richard III should not have been located in the Business section of the BBC website.

              I want to thank you for bringing this to our attention. This article was placed in the wrong area of our website. It will be updated in due course."

              Course not yet due, it seems
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • mangerton
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3346

                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                Finally got an email (from Capita - who else?):

                "I understand you felt the article about Richard III should not have been located in the Business section of the BBC website.

                I want to thank you for bringing this to our attention. This article was placed in the wrong area of our website. It will be updated in due course."

                Course not yet due, it seems
                Capita? Don't hold your breath. It defeats me how they get all these contracts. I wouldn't give them five pounds a week of Harold Wilson's devalued currency.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30257

                  Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                  Capita? Don't hold your breath. It defeats me how they get all these contracts. I wouldn't give them five pounds a week of Harold Wilson's devalued currency.
                  Of course, it doesn't actually say it's from Capita, but it's 'signed' BBC Audience Services, of which the Complaints section is a part.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • David-G
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 1216

                    Anyone who missed the TV programme about the discovery of Richard III might like to know that it is being repeated tonight on "More 4" at 10.00.

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      Originally posted by David-G View Post
                      Anyone who missed the TV programme about the discovery of Richard III might like to know that it is being repeated tonight on "More 4" at 10.00.
                      Thanks for the heads up for this.Iplayer here we come tomorrow!!
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • Petrushka
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12242

                        What's the latest on this saga? Seems to have gone quiet again.
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          I have heard it's going through the courts but since then nothing. Personally, I wished they left him where he was. I think the same team or similiar team, wanted to dig up the two princes that were murdered in the tower. I am glad the HM vetoed that!
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30257

                            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                            What's the latest on this saga? Seems to have gone quiet again.
                            This seems to have been the latest. Court proceedings adjourned.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Flosshilde
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7988

                              "A judicial review will decide whether the procedure that led to his bones being excavated in Leicester ... was conducted correctly"

                              & if it decides that it wasn't conducted correctly, what then? Put him back?

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30257

                                Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                                "A judicial review will decide whether the procedure that led to his bones being excavated in Leicester ... was conducted correctly"

                                & if it decides that it wasn't conducted correctly, what then? Put him back?
                                That would make the JR application a bit counterproductive. If they lose, he'll be buried in Leicester Cathedral; if they win he'll be buried in a Leicester car park. I assume it's not the licence to excavate that's being challenged but the accompanying stipulation regarding the place of reburial. But even if they win, I'm not sure why that would automatically mean the 'Yorkists' have a right to decide ('we want him to be based near his family so they can visit'?). There will still be the archaeological practice of reburial in the closest consecrated ground to the original place of burial.... I would of thort?
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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