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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30259

    The Leicester photograph presents a perspective that probably wouldn't be seen by the visitor. Why can't they both have memorials? Once the TV programme is forgotten, people won't remember anything except the legend.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Petrushka
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12242

      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      The Leicester photograph presents a perspective that probably wouldn't be seen by the visitor. Why can't they both have memorials? Once the TV programme is forgotten, people won't remember anything except the legend.
      It's been a great opportunity to teach kids about our island history with a fascinating story attached of the recovery and identification of Richard III because it has brought the past to life. I'm sure that many adults as well as children have been prompted to read and learn more and, one hopes, become hooked. The whole thing is a really quite wonderful story.

      One hopes that schools haven't squandered this opportunity.
      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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      • mercia
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8920

        a right British row

        Members of the Richard III Society withdraw funding meant for the king's tomb at Leicester Cathedral because they are unhappy with the design.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30259

          Originally posted by mercia View Post
          The Society had already gone ahead and commissioned their own memorial - a more ornate design. I can imagine its members didn't want to contribute to another, rival, one as well. One's very traditional, one's plain contemporary - but in the end they're just blocks of stone, memorials.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • eighthobstruction
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 6433

            Yep, what did I tell you (in common parlance "it's a turkey")....glad someone is tuned in....Also I think that tombs should be either in the ground and flat or at least rooted to the ground....the one on offer 'hovers' ( my quotes)....Yep!!....esp for R3 because he has already been moved....the 'hover' makes it look impermanent,,,,
            bong ching

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37639

              Walton should be disinterred to write a score for a full TV dramatisation of all this!

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                Walton should be disinterred to write a score for a full TV dramatisation of all this!
                And then re-interred in Oldham!
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                  Walton should be disinterred to write a score for a full TV dramatisation of all this!
                  It's a typical Plantagenet thing. Never do things in halves! Just the whole or nothing else!
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • Flosshilde
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7988

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    The Society had already gone ahead and commissioned their own memorial - a more ornate design. I can imagine its members didn't want to contribute to another, rival, one as well. One's very traditional, one's plain contemporary - but in the end they're just blocks of stone, memorials.
                    The story says that "some large donors had contacted [Philipa Langley] to ask for their money back." and that "unhappy international members of the society had contacted her.", so it would seem that the money had already been given, or at least promised to, the Cathedral authorities. Perhaps they should have specified that they wanted approval of the design before handing the money over.

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                    • jean
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7100

                      This is the Richard III Society's choice:

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                        It's a typical Plantagenet thing. Never do things in halves! Just the whole or nothing else!
                        Well, that gets rid of one possible compromise ...
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37639

                          Originally posted by jean View Post
                          This is the Richard III Society's choice:

                          A levitating tomb

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                          • Flosshilde
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7988

                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            Well, that gets rid of one possible compromise ...
                            In that case, perhaps he could rotate between York, Leicester & Westminster (the Abbey, not the Palace). Canova's 'Three Graces' spend alternate years in London & Edinburgh, there's a Madonna who regularly moves between Edinburgh & Glasgow, & I beleive there's a saint on a perpetual world tour. So there's plenty of precedent.

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                            • eighthobstruction
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6433

                              Now what do Leicester Cathedral want?.... a money magnet??....or are they just hoping to go on as usual???.... are they looking for souvenir sales as an end product????....what's their angle ?????....

                              ....while the 'Wars of the Roses' was a name given long after that time....a traditional shaped tomb like in #550, but with intricate and interesting rose briars twisting around it, and on the top a bronze bas-relief of England at that time....
                              Last edited by eighthobstruction; 23-09-13, 17:24.
                              bong ching

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                              • John Wright
                                Full Member
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 705

                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                The Leicester photograph presents a perspective that probably wouldn't be seen by the visitor. Why can't they both have memorials? Once the TV programme is forgotten, people won't remember anything except the legend.

                                The visitors, it is planned, would see this:

                                - - -

                                John W

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