Richard the Third

[Mandryka]

How sadly, and predictably, ill-informed you are. It's that lick-spittle propagandist WS who is to blame for all the calumny heaped on that fine monarch. He was most likely not even responsible, well not directly so, for the death of Henry VI. Lefties are far more likely to speak up in support of Richard III than to swallow the Shakespearean myth.

I do actually have a degree in History and an MA in Medieval Studies, Bryony, so whatever abuse you'd like to hurl at me, I don't think the charge of being ill-informed will stick.

[jean]

Can someone explain how the mere finding of his body can prove that he was, after all, a Good Thing?

[vinteuil]

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He was of course the last English monarch, though I haven't seen any commentator mention that.

... he was a Plantagenet - the last of the Plantagenets - but basically an Angevin. In any case, French rather than English. We Normans rather tend to look down on the Angevins and Plantagenets as Johnny-come-latelys, but at least he was French...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Plantagenet

[Bryn]

I do actually have a degree in History and an MA in Medieval Studies, Bryony, so whatever abuse you'd like to hurl at me, I don't think the charge of being ill-informed will stick.

You remind me of an erstwhile colleague whose employment was recently terminated. She too made a big thing about having history degree, yet when supposedly having researched the history of Eton's Porny School, came up with entirely the wrong name for its founder (her source was the Googled BBC's Doomsday project site to which a child from that school had contributed a garbled version of its history). Sadly, a humanities degree or two are no guarantee of a well-informed mind.

[MrGongGong]

I do actually have a degree in History and an MA in Medieval Studies, Bryony, so whatever abuse you'd like to hurl at me, I don't think the charge of being ill-informed will stick.

Which maybe shows what a waste some folks make of education ?
Did they not teach you to think rather than rely on "received wisdom" ?
or is "chorus of leftists" an academic term ..........

My dad'll fight your dad.....

[Bryn]

Can someone explain how the mere finding of his body can prove that he was, after all, a Good Thing?

It's not the finding of his body but the findings of historical research which tend to dispel the Shakespearean myth. Tey was not that far off in her historical fictional whodunnit.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

"Rissoles"

[Nick Armstrong]

"Rissoles"

Rissoles!!!

Reminds me of a daft joke of my father’s, maybe from RAF days. Somebody was calling them ’pissoles’ (presumably a comment on the quality) and some fastidious soul said ‘No, it’s an R, not a P’. Reply: ‘All right, then, arseholes’.

Only connect....

[ahinton]

on form this morning, ahinton

Seen elsewhere (so no credit to me for this) - "now is the winter of our disinterment"; caps mine well and truly, I'd say!

[amateur51]

Which maybe shows what a waste some folks make of education ?
Did they not teach you to think rather than rely on "received wisdom" ?
or is "chorus of leftists" an academic term ..........

My dad'll fight your dad.....

[BBMmk2]

Back on topic..............

This is indeed a tremendous discovery and just shows, what with the technical advances that have been made in recent years, as to how they can reach this conclusion?

[ahinton]

As in, criminal record??

If in doubt you could always research to ascertain the results on any CRB checks that I might or might not have had.

[ahinton]

or is "chorus of leftists" an academic term ..........

I don't think that it is but I'm trying to remember from which Verdi opera it comes...

[amateur51]

Oh no not another thread going to disappear up the a**e of left-right stereotyping, lost among the dust kicked up by flailing handbags...

(Hope you boys are being ironic...)

Excuse me, Caliban, Mandy does weight-training!

[jean]

It's not the finding of his body but the findings of historical research which tend to dispel the Shakespearean myth.

Obviously.

So why is everyone linking this find to a reassessment of his character and behaviour?