Richard the Third

[Barbirollians]

That would make the JR application a bit counterproductive. If they lose, he'll be buried in Leicester Cathedral; if they win he'll be buried in a Leicester car park. I assume it's not the licence to excavate that's being challenged but the accompanying stipulation regarding the place of reburial. But even if they win, I'm not sure why that would automatically mean the 'Yorkists' have a right to decide ('we want him to be based near his family so they can visit'?). There will still be the archaeological practice of reburial in the closest consecrated ground to the original place of burial.... I would of thort?

No - the judicial review concerns the Secretary of State's failure to consult as to where he should be buried if he were to be discovered . If the decision were quashed it would have to be taken afresh after a proper consultation.

[MrGongGong]

There will still be the archaeological practice of reburial in the closest consecrated ground to the original place of burial.... I would of thort?

Which is just over the road

[BBMmk2]

I think it be appropriate for RIII to be buried in York, after reading a lot about him.

[MrGongGong]

I think it be appropriate for RIII to be buried in York, after reading a lot about him.

nonsense
I think York has enough stuff already
I would like to see it in Leicester with music provided by the DMU Dirty Electronics Ensemble
and Dhosas from Belgrave Road
OR
we should get Gavin Bryars to write the music

[Flosshilde]

I still think sharing is the best option - by division or touring.

[BBMmk2]

Ultimately RIII, was a Yorkist.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I still think sharing is the best option - by division ...

Is this a "wisdom of Solomon" suggestion, Flossie? The centre with the genuine claim to the remains will be so horrified at such an idea, they'll want the other city to take him, thus proving that he's rightfully theirs?

[BBMmk2]

Is this a "wisdom of Solomon" suggestion, Flossie? The centre with the genuine claim to the remains will be so horrified at such an idea, they'll want the other city to take him, thus proving that he's rightfully theirs?

He be in York, no doubt, even though, by ancestral line, I am a Lancastrian!! :)

[Alain Maréchal]

Where is he at present? Lying around in an archaeological department would seem to be as undignified as under a carpark.
I have some sympathy for Leicester: he died locally and the city has always made much of him (roads, bridge, park, statues, schools) even when they didn't know where he was.

[jean]

Of course he should be (re)buried in Leicester! These supposed 'descendents' of his have only the most tenuous of connections with him, which in any case they share with thousands more.

And why should that give them the right to pronounce upon anything?

[french frank]

Or Gloucester: he was Duke of Gloucester himself, but only son of the Duke of York, and he also raised it to a shire incorporate, a considerable honour given its then size, 'because it bore the ancient name of his dukedom'. Or Leicester ...

[Flosshilde]

Is this a "wisdom of Solomon" suggestion, Flossie?

I was thinking of a more literal application Solomon's solution - it would reflect the medieval trade in relics. Or perhaps the practice of a saint having several skeletons - St Valentine (or the ex-saint) has three bodies, one of which is in Glasgow. Or the practice of monarchs touring their kingdom. The last might be the most practical

[BBMmk2]

Of course he should be (re)buried in Leicester! These supposed 'descendents' of his have only the most tenuous of connections with him, which in any case they share with thousands more.

And why should that give them the right to pronounce upon anything?

We may be many Jean, but as he is from the Royal House of Plantagenet, he should be buried in York,(as he was Duke of York before becoming King). no matter how many of us there are!

[jean]

We may be many Jean...

But very few of you express any opinion at all!

[french frank]

he should be buried in York,(as he was Duke of York before becoming King)

I don't think he was ever Duke of York, Bbm. He wouldn't have inherited his father's title as he wasn't the eldest son (Edward succeeded to the title, briefly before he became Edward IV). Richard was Duke of Gloucester. His father, the Duke of York, was buried in Pontefract, not York. And his brother was buried in Windsor, so there was no custom for the Dukes of York to be buried in York itself.