Richard the Third

[Flosshilde]

Astonishing.

Plus it's at the heart of some of the best place and street names in the country:


Raw Dykes
Butthole Lane

Are you sure these aren't anything to do with the karaoke night that Ams mentioned as one of Leicester's attractions?

[Nick Armstrong]

Are you sure these aren't anything to do with the karaoke night that Ams mentioned as one of Leicester's attractions?

Not at all sure!

[Mr Pee]

Are you sure these aren't anything to do with the karaoke night that Ams mentioned as one of Leicester's attractions?

What delightful imagery you conjure up Flosshilde.....talk about lowering the tone....

[BBMmk2]

When everything has all been sorted, i wonder where Ricahrd III will be buiried? Leicester or york?Or could even be Westminster Abbey, maybe the best place, then it be all neutral?

[Anna]

Not neccessarily - there is some doubt about the paternity of Victoria, for example, based on the incidence of porphyria in the royal family before her & haemophylia after. 'Ordinary' people's ancestry is a pretty well documented as royalty through parish registers and the various registry offices.

Not necessarily, what is on the document may not be the truth. My great-grandmother ran off with Richard Jenkins to Pontypridd just 9 months after giving birth to her fourth child, Thomas. My grandfather was named on the birth certificate ..... but she took young Thomas with her and brought him up as a Jenkins. It used to be that a government minister (or was it the Lord Chamberlain?) had to be present at Royal births to avoid alternative babies being smuggled in if the Royal child died at birth. This was discontinued in 1948 after Prince Charles' birth.

When everything has all been sorted, i wonder where Ricahrd III will be buiried? Leicester or york?Or could even be Westminster Abbey, maybe the best place, then it be all neutral?

Personally I think York has a stronger case historically, but it's perhaps more fitting to bury him nearest to where he was killed.

[BBMmk2]

I would agree with that, anna. As he was also Duke of York.

[Mr Pee]

I think Westminster Abbey has as good a case as anywhere else BBM....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2274088/To-bury-Richard-III-Westminster-Abbey-finally-proper-national-resting-place-unfairly-maligned-monarch-all.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[Bryn]

I would agree with that, anna. As he was also Duke of York.

Hmm, so why not Gloucester, as he was that Duke before he inherited title to York. I still say re-inter him at St. George's Chapel, Windsor Castle, along with his brother, whom he is credited with serving so diligently.

[ahinton]

Hmm, so why not Gloucester, as he was that Duke before he inherited title to York. I still say re-inter him at St. George's Chapel, Windsor Castle, along with his brother, whom he is credited with serving so diligently.

If arguments of this kind by conflicting newly vested interests continue in this fashion, it might be argued that, following his premature demise, the disinterment of Richard III more than half a millennium later is already resulting in his skeleton morphing into another set of Elgin marbles or becoming the victim in an unsavoury game of PPP - Pass the Plantagenet Parcel...

[Anna]

That Daily Wail article is a bit OTT and Metrocentral isn't it? The only valid reason for burying him there would be to lay him alongside his wife, the suggestion of a State Funeral is ridiculous. I can see Bryn's point about Windsor, but that may also be a bit too close to home for Betty. As he is always asssociated with The North and taking over Council of the North, plus being born in Northants, I suggest Northampton Cathedral, which fits the bill for his faith, which is pre-Reformation
(Northampton is in the North I assume)

[Bryn]

... (Northampton is in the North I assume)

Well it's north of Watford, so I suppose that's right, it is of The North.

[Anna]

Well it's north of Watford, so I suppose that's right, it is of The North.

Right Bryn, let us make an Executive Decision. Richard III was of the North, Northampton is, I presume, signposted on the MI as The North as Romans would understand. Deed done!
Oh really, does it matter, as long as he is laid to rest in a more comfortable place than a Council carpark. Northants definitely probably needs more tourists than York .... Should we consider how the UK economy will benefit county by county as to where the remains are reinterred?
Perhaps, now this is a novel idea, his remains should be paraded through the land, like St. Edmund or Ste. Therese of Lisieux was recently?
Now, here's the thing, this is the thing, we've got the bones, let's capitalise on the bones, yah? And the Richard III society, wouldn't they pay a lot to actually, sort of, collapse in front of a glass case, and the Prices in the Tower Society (even though their parents marriage was declared invalid and they were branded as illegitimate and had no right to the succession) well, they'd love to spit on the glass case.
Sorry, imagination run away with me!!

[MrGongGong]

I suggest Northampton Cathedral, which fits the bill for his faith, which is pre-Reformation
(Northampton is in the North I assume)

eer NO it's not

(but it IS in Europe )

[Bryn]

eer NO it's not

Unless they have quietly moved Watford north of it, Northampton most certainly is in The North, as any true Lunnonner will surely assert.

[MrGongGong]

Unless they have quietly moved Watford north of it, Northampton most certainly is in The North, as any true Lunnonner will surely assert.

Surely you know that Scunthorpe is the Hub of the Universe